Ruger did it! American Compact

[Capbyrd]

5 hours ago, Ray Z said:

You gotta shoot it before you buy it. The extended portion of the frame in the back if very uncomfortable to shoot. Not only is it too long but it's too squared off. It digs into the top of your hand on recoil. Sorta like the standard 1911 grip safety verses a high hand.

 

I emailed ruger about the way I feel. The return email was just standard "thank you very much bla,bla,bla,bla"

This isn't new.  These are the same issues most people had with the standard American Pistol.  

[Garufa]

Is the magazine falling out still an issue as widely reported when the family was first introduced?

[TrickyNicky]

9 hours ago, JAB said:

I don't think there are many manufacturers of 1911s claiming that the pistols they build are an 'all new, innovative design' like Ruger did when, for instance, they copied Kel Tec's P3AT and acted as if the Little Copied Pistol was an 'all new design that started from a blank sheet of paper.'  I mean, they were going so far as to claim they had invented something brand new that was going to 'revolutionize' personal handgun carry and even got many of the gun rags to go along with the lie.  Most gun designs are, in one way or another, derivative of others.  That is to be expected.  It is directly ripping off another company's design and then claiming that they, Ruger, came up with the design from scratch that is annoying.  Ruger builds good firearms and I am a fan of some of those firearms but when they insult gun buyer's intelligence with such obvious lies then it makes you kind of wonder what kind of company they are running.

Think of it this way:  if you knew that musician A composed an original piece of music and later heard musician B performing or having recorded that piece of music, maybe with one or two minor changes that didn't really make it significantly different from musician A's version, and musician B was presenting it as their original work, not a cover of musician A or even a 're-imagining' of musician A then should people who know what musician B has done not be annoyed?  Should they simply 'get over it'?

 

[Steelharp]

9 hours ago, JAB said:

Think of it this way:  if you knew that musician A composed an original piece of music and later heard musician B performing or having recorded that piece of music, maybe with one or two minor changes that didn't really make it significantly different from musician A's version, and musician B was presenting it as their original work, not a cover of musician A or even a 're-imagining' of musician A then should people who know what musician B has done not be annoyed?  Should they simply 'get over it'?

Considering that's happened so many times, and had to be "gotten over"... yeah. Unless it's SO close that a lawsuit occurs, it's pretty much a dead issue. I would think if this was really close, there would be legal implications.

We did get one in today. It feels great in the hand; no idea about shooting it,so I have no comment on Ray Z's observation.

[MrsMonkeyMan2500]

On 10/7/2016 at 10:56 AM, Ray Z said:

You gotta shoot it before you buy it. The extended portion of the frame in the back if very uncomfortable to shoot. Not only is it too long but it's too squared off. It digs into the top of your hand on recoil. Sorta like the standard 1911 grip safety verses a high hand.

I bought a 29 for my husband and 3 days later I found one in NiB-X. This was our first venture into 10mm for both of us and we hadn't tested his yet. I still bought it. The guy at the store thought I was nuts, but I did. 2 years later it's still my EDC. Every gun I have ever bought, I've only held it, never shot it, except for my 590a1. Guess which one I regret? LOL Turns out I am not a fan of the $800 Mossburg.

[MrsMonkeyMan2500]

Edited October 9, 2016 by MrsMonkeyMan2500
Double tap

[JAB]

On 10/07/2016 at 7:32 PM, Steelharp said:

Considering that's happened so many times, and had to be "gotten over"... yeah. Unless it's SO close that a lawsuit occurs, it's pretty much a dead issue. I would think if this was really close, there would be legal implications.

We did get one in today. It feels great in the hand; no idea about shooting it,so I have no comment on Ray Z's observation.

People asked George Kelgren why he didn't patent the P3AT design (and other innovative Kel Tec designs) so he could take legal action in cases like the LCP.  His answer was that all a patent does is give license to sue and that the reality was that the money needed to take on a big company like Ruger - and their lawyers - would pretty much ruin a smaller outfit like Kel Tec even if Kel Tec won the case.

[Steelharp]

Interesting observation. Thanks

[jgradyc]

Seems to me unless the trigger is special, there's nothing to interest me in this gun. I can buy a Shield for nearly $200 less. 

[Capbyrd]

3 hours ago, jgradyc said:

Seems to me unless the trigger is special, there's nothing to interest me in this gun. I can buy a Shield for nearly $200 less. 

So shields are about 279?   I might try one at that price.  But why are you comparing a 26 to a 19.  Not really great comparisons.