Colin Kaepernick

[Chucktshoes]

1 hour ago, Omega said:

The flag belongs to its people, not the government.  

But only if you are freedoming correctly. 

[KKing]

[Chucktshoes]

27 minutes ago, KKing said:

I've always got more time to waste.

[NextExit]

We'll waste plenty of time on this until someone else makes the headlines. 

[Garufa]

21 minutes ago, Chucktshoes said:

I've always got more time to waste.

You've always got more time to incite.  

[Capbyrd]

Just curious, but why has there never been a thread about all the players that talk to each other during the anthem or stand with their hands gripped tight onto their shoulder pads?  Why was this never an issue for anyone until a player actually had a legitimate reason to be "disrespectful?"

[btq96r]

1 minute ago, Capbyrd said:

Just curious, but why has there never been a thread about all the players that talk to each other during the anthem or stand with their hands gripped tight onto their shoulder pads?  Why was this never an issue for anyone until a player actually had a legitimate reason to be "disrespectful?"

Because they aren't protesting in the same vein as BLM.  I'd imagine that's the crux of the outrage for some.

[Garufa]

5 minutes ago, Capbyrd said:

Just curious, but why has there never been a thread about all the players that talk to each other during the anthem or stand with their hands gripped tight onto their shoulder pads?  Why was this never an issue for anyone until a player actually had a legitimate reason to be "disrespectful?"

Probably because HE made a big production of it and "legitimate" is questionable.

[Sam1]

Why does anyone still watch the NFL?  That organization is effectively the antithesis of what most people stand for on the board.

Edited September 3, 2016 by Sam1

[bud]

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Edited December 1, 2016 by bud

[suspiciousmind]

9 hours ago, bud said:

It is akin to professional wrestling. Not it's identical brother, but akin.

It's still real to me, dammit! 

[analog_kidd]

Well, looks like Kaepernick can just stay on the bench after the anthem. I heard that the 49'ers announced he is not getting the starting QB position.

[KKing]

Well, looks like Kaepernick can just stay on the bench after the anthem. I heard that the 49'ers announced he is not getting the starting QB position.

I've said it, but he should stand when he gets the chance.

[bersaguy]

I think he has already made his bed and now he will have to lay in it. If the 49's drop him I would guess his football career is over because only a very stupid team would ever sign him again. It would be poison for that team............jmho

[Omega]

44 minutes ago, bersaguy said:

I think he has already made his bed and now he will have to lay in it. If the 49's drop him I would guess his football career is over because only a very stupid team would ever sign him again. It would be poison for that team............jmho

I don't know, Vick got picked up when I thought he didn't have a chance.  With the NFL it's all about the money so if they need a QB I think they might sign him.

[DaveTN]

I'm surprised (although I shouldn't be) at the number of people that want to argue he has the right to do what he did and say what he said. Of course he has those rights.

And the NFL team owners have the right to cut him or get rid of him if they don't agree with what he is doing, as long as they do it within the bounds of any contacts they have with him.

I don't want him on any team I support and won't give any financial support to any team that hires him. I think it would be great if his NFL career were over because of what he did.

“Oppresses black people” That is offensive to me and is untrue of my country. He is a perfect example of why it is a lie.

 

[btq96r]

1 hour ago, DaveTN said:

I don't want him on any team I support and won't give any financial support to any team that hires him.

Just by watching the NFL, you're financially supporting the team that hires him (as long as he's playing).  Revenue sharing from media agreements nets each team over $220 million, and any time teams play, they split the revenue from the ticket sales.  That's before you get into the issues about how the league on whole being competitive keeps every team financially solvent, so just by supporting any team, you're supporting the 49ers, and by extension Kapernick.

[Sam1]

1 hour ago, btq96r said:

Just by watching the NFL, you're financially supporting the team that hires him (as long as he's playing).  Revenue sharing from media agreements nets each team over $220 million, and any time teams play, they split the revenue from the ticket sales.  That's before you get into the issues about how the league on whole being competitive keeps every team financially solvent, so just by supporting any team, you're supporting the 49ers, and by extension Kapernick.

Don't be bringing those pesky facts around here!

[Chucktshoes]

7 hours ago, DaveTN said:

I'm surprised (although I shouldn't be) at the number of people that want to argue he has the right to do what he did and say what he said. Of course he has those rights.

And the NFL team owners have the right to cut him or get rid of him if they don't agree with what he is doing, as long as they do it within the bounds of any contacts they have with him.

I don't want him on any team I support and won't give any financial support to any team that hires him. I think it would be great if his NFL career were over because of what he did.

“Oppresses black people” That is offensive to me and is untrue of my country. He is a perfect example of why it is a lie.

 

The truth is often an offensive thing to those with a vested interest in maintaining a status quo built upon not seeing it. 

[Sam1]

12 hours ago, Chucktshoes said:

The truth is often an offensive thing to those with a vested interest in maintaining a status quo built upon not seeing it. 

[btq96r]

Turns out Kapernick may not have been the biggest O2 thief on the 49ers roster.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/09/05/bruce-miller-arrested-assault-san-francisco-49ers

Edited September 5, 2016 by btq96r

[KKing]

Turns out Kapernick may not have been the biggest O2 thief on the 49ers roster.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/09/05/bruce-miller-arrested-assault-san-francisco-49ers

He's just a victim of his environment. He only wanted a hotel room so he could be at church early. He dindu nuffin.

[peejman]

On September 4, 2016 at 0:16 PM, Omega said:

I don't know, Vick got picked up when I thought he didn't have a chance.  With the NFL it's all about the money so if they need a QB I think they might sign him.

What Vick got into was terrible, he served time for it, and appears (on the surface) to be a better person for it.   The big difference between him and Colin is that Vick actually has talent. 

[btq96r]

The free market is speaking:

The San Francisco 49ers quarterback currently has the fifth-best selling jersey on NFL.com, less than a year after it was put on clearance sale.

Ironically, Kapernick doesn't see a direct profit from those sales, the profits are pooled along with every other jersey sale and split between the current maker (I believe it's Nike at the moment), the teams, and the players as a whole.

[Omega]

43 minutes ago, btq96r said:

The free market is speaking:

The San Francisco 49ers quarterback currently has the fifth-best selling jersey on NFL.com, less than a year after it was put on clearance sale.

Ironically, Kapernick doesn't see a direct profit from those sales, the profits are pooled along with every other jersey sale and split between the current maker (I believe it's Nike at the moment), the teams, and the players as a whole.

Doesn't even make the top 25 here:

http://www.nflshop.com/pages/Top_Selling_Jerseys