Franklin Armory Binary Firing System

[gregintenn]

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/legal-full-auto-ar-franklin-armory-binary-firing-system-installation-full-review/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=20160822_BlogDigest_186&utm_campaign=/blog/legal-full-auto-ar-franklin-armory-binary-firing-system-installation-full-review/

Well, this looks interesting! What do you think?

[gjohnsoniv]

That will last as long as it takes the idiots to write clarification letters to the ATF.

[Rightwinger]

I see a quick end to this. 

Shooter enjoying his new trigger, pull / bang, release / bang.  Pull / bang, turns around smiling to his buddies and release BANG.  Buddy sues, shooter sues, everyone sues......meh

 

[KahrMan]

There is a thread on here somewhere from a month ago or so about this.  Supposedly the ATF has said this okay for now.  I was kinda surprised.  

[KahrMan]

Here is the thread I was thinking of.  The Fostech echo trigger.  It is also a binary firing system.

[NotYetGecko45]

"The National Firearms Act defines "machinegun" as "any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger." 26 U.S.C. 5845(b). The term also includes "the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of the person." Id.; see 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(23); 27 CFR 478.11, 479.11."

Now if 'single function of the trigger' means just one pull then I do not see a problem - but if ATF counts the pull and release/reset of a trigger as a 'single function' then I can see where there could be a problem. 

For $400 it seems a bit prohibitive - I am waiting for the single-celled, spray-tanned, "Three Percent" crowd on Instagram, and other websites, to post pictures of their "sweet Navy SEAL controlled pairs" using this trigger, that will be worth it for entertainment value.

MAC on YT had a cool showcase, seems you can overrun the system, which makes sense. I'm sure it would be pretty fun in a pistol carbine type weapon - but as mentioned, someone will get scared/have their safe space violated/get offended and want to ruin the fun for everyone like with pistol braces.

[Garufa]

4 hours ago, gjohnsoniv said:

That will last as long as it takes the idiots to write clarification letters to the ATF.

I'll bet you a .22 shell that letters have already been sent for clarification and that the ATF will come down on these like a ton of bricks by the end of the year.

[KahrMan]

8 minutes ago, Garufa said:

I'll bet you a .22 shell that letters have already been sent for clarification and that the ATF will come down on these like a ton of bricks by the end of the year.

kinda what I thought but this is what Fostech says:

What’s really cool is what happens when you pull the trigger. Unlike other guns, the Echo fires when you pull the trigger AND when you release it. This new system also makes it nearly impossible for the gun to malfunction. There’s an important distinction with this as well, which the ATF has issued a letter making it considered not a machine gun.

 

Of course they could issue another letter stating that it is a machine gun anytime they wanted.

[Garufa]

Does Fostech have that letter posted on their website?  Doesn't matter really, a new letter could come at any time essentially outlawing the things...just like shouldering "the brace".

[KahrMan]

15 minutes ago, Garufa said:

Does Fostech have that letter posted on their website?  Doesn't matter really, a new letter could come at any time essentially outlawing the things...just like shouldering "the brace".

Not sure. just saw it mentioned in the article.