Helwan 920 Beretta 92S copy

[Matt8090]

Picked this one up today for a steal. Haven't shot it yet. Feels pretty good though. It was imported by Intrac Arms out of Knoxville. I'll post more info after I give it a good clean & lube then get it out to the range.

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[tercel89]

I see the magazine release is on the lower portion of the grip. With this being there , does it accept regular Beretta 92 mags or does it have to use special mags with a notch cut into the lower part of the mag ?

[Matt8090]

There are supposedly certain Beretta mags that have the regular cut and the cut for the European style release like this one. With the amount of surplus Beretta 92S guns coming in it shouldn't be terribly hard finding magazines for it.

[Oh Shoot]

9 hours ago, Matt8090 said:

There are supposedly certain Beretta mags that have the regular cut and the cut for the European style release like this one. With the amount of surplus Beretta 92S guns coming in it shouldn't be terribly hard finding magazines for it.

Sort of the opposite.

All Beretta factory  92FS mags have both cut outs in them, so will work.

But some, if not most, of the military contract ones only have the upper one, so they won't work. (these are most of the "surplus" ones).

 

This assuming that heater is indeed in Beretta spec to use Beretta mags period, of course.

- OS

Edited August 16, 2016 by Oh Shoot

[TNWNGR]

The picture looks good and the blued finish looks nice I just hope it's a better pistol then the Helwan copy of the Beretta Brigadier. Here's an article link...

  http://www.guns.com/2013/02/05/helwan-920/

[graycrait]

I'll bet it is a "shooter" and if it has a bug or two I bet it can be easily worked out.  Can you give a close approximation of what "a steal" means?

[Matt8090]

9 hours ago, Oh Shoot said:

Sort of the opposite.

All Beretta factory  92FS mags have both cut outs in them, so will work.

But some, if not most, of the military contract ones only have the upper one, so they won't work. (these are most of the "surplus" ones).

 

This assuming that heater is indeed in Beretta spec to use Beretta mags period, of course.

- OS

Thanks for the info! That's good to know. I'll order me some 92 FS mags for sure.

[Matt8090]

8 hours ago, graycrait said:

I'll bet it is a "shooter" and if it has a bug or two I bet it can be easily worked out.  Can you give a close approximation of what "a steal" means?

Last night when I got home I sprayed it down with Gun Scrubber and gave it a good cleaning, then lubed it up with some Ballistol. I put 50 rounds through it with no issues at all. The double action pull is absolutely atrocious, (BUT I'm not a DA/SA guy anyway. Give me a striker or 1911.) However, the single action pull is absolutely beautiful. Very short and super crisp, probably around 6 lbs. The reset is also very short. After taking it apart last night and looking at the internals, there are a few light machining marks here and there but overall the quality seems to be pretty good considering the country of origin... I'd never heard of the Helwan 920 until I got this. I can tell it's one of those surplus guns that was probably carried a good bit and shot very little. When I cleaned the barrel it shined up like new and had perfect rifling. From everything I've read, this 920 is a much better gun than the brigadier copy they made before this one. I'll try to get out to the range with it soon and do a video on my YouTube channel on it. When I do I'll post the link here.

And now, the story on how I got it. To closely approximate the "steal" I got on this. I paid $0.00 for it. It was given to me by a good friend and co-worker. His brother in law gave it to him 10 years ago and it was put in a closet and forgotten about until this past weekend when he and his wife were cleaning that closet out. She was pulling some bags down and this 3 lb. chunk of Egyptian steel came crashing down on top of her head. My buddy said at that point he heard every expletive in the book and even a few new ones and was promptly told to get rid of it. Considering he's a revolver guy anyway and given the relatively low monetary value of the gun, he knew I love most any and all thing firearms he decided to just give it to me. (He's pretty well set money wise too...)

[TNWNGR]

Hey free is an incredible deal and even better is from a friend. As to the atrocious action. That's pretty common in Beretta 92F's but does improve a lot with use. Some people invest in a Wolff spring kit to get optimum results, I lean more towards dry firing and shooting the gun and letting it smooth itself out.  

[ma6907]

Free is certainly my favorite kind of deal.  The do come around occasionally.  Kind of hard to find fault with a free weapon that goes bang.  Worse case scenario it can be a glove box gun.