Baby snake ID?

[monkeylizard]

yeah, but don't put the mothballs too close to a water source. They'll harm the fur-bearing trout.

[conn_air7]

Round pupils, so it's not venomous.  Kinda looks like a Northern Water Snake, but it could be something else.

My understanding is that the round pupil rule is only good for Pit Vipers. The coral snake (very venomous) that resides in the U.S. has round pupils. So, all elliptical pupils are venomous, but not all round pupils are non-venomous


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[Shorty]

Technically true, but the coral is identified as poisonous by the color pattern not the eyes. And there's no way that snake could be mistaken for a coral. 

[Oh Shoot]

23 minutes ago, Shorty said:

Technically true, but the coral is identified as poisonous by the color pattern not the eyes. And there's no way that snake could be mistaken for a coral. 

Especially in TN.

- OS

[leafinthewind]

100% a northern water snake.... I ought to know... it my job 

[conn_air7]

Technically true, but the coral is identified as poisonous by the color pattern not the eyes. And there's no way that snake could be mistaken for a coral. 

Just don't misidentify a king snake as a coral snake, that could be fun.


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[Erik88]

Fun fact for you. We have 34 different species of snake here in TN. Many of which, I haven't heard of before.

 

http://www.tennsnakes.org/

 

[Omega]

1 hour ago, Erik88 said:

Fun fact for you. We have 34 different species of snake here in TN. Many of which, I haven't heard of before.

 

http://www.tennsnakes.org/

 

Some of those snakes on the first page look poisonous, the ones with the triangular head.  And this one would be dead no matter what if he decided to do this while I was in my tree stand:

[conn_air7]

Frankly, I love snakes. I think they are fascinating creatures. Most people who are scared of snakes just haven't spent the time to learn how to identify the ones that are venomous and non-venomous. Just like most creatures, they mean no harm to you, unless you threaten them.

If you know it's not venomous, which is fairly easy to figure out, why kill it? They are like your local pest control around your house.


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[Omega]

I'm not scared of them, and given enough time will id it and deal with it appropriately.  But when they surprise me my instinct is to make them dead.

[Sam1]

Yeah snakes are cool, and I understand the non-poisonous ones kill poisonous ones.  However, when you don't know and it's in your domicile, sorry snake!

[dawgdoc]

I'm going to put my educator hat on briefly.   If you want to be precise, pit vipers and coral snakes are venomous, whereas toads are poisonous.  Venomous animals usually inject a toxin into another animal's body.  Poisonous animals introduce a toxin passively, such as by being eaten or touching the skin of the other animal.  Some would consider it pedantic, but it is a difference used by many scientists.  To herpetology-minded folks, venomous vs poisonous is akin to clip vs magazine for gun people.  We know what you are talking about, but we choose to use the more correct terminology.

[Sam1]

Learned something new today, had no clue on that.  Now I know and there will not be anymore "clipazine" mistakes

[n0rlf]

On August 11, 2016 at 9:00 AM, conn_air7 said:

On a more serious note, think about these 4 things when coming in contact with a snake in TN.

1. Round pupils= ALWAYS
Non-Venomous
2. Long and thin tail= Usually Non-Venomous
3. Round/Non-Triangular shaped head is non-venomous.
4. There are only 4 Native venomous snakes in the state of Tennessee. (Copperhead, Timber Rattlesnake, Western Pigmy, and Cottonmouth).

- You rarely will see a cottonmouth or western pigmy, depending on what part of TN you live in.

- Pupils are easiest indicator


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Wow, only 4 native non venomous snakes in Tennessee! They must get around a lot.  

 

Just kidding, I am sure you meant 4 species of native non venomous.......

 

[conn_air7]

Wow, only 4 native non venomous snakes in Tennessee! They must get around a lot.  

 

Just kidding, I am sure you meant 4 species of native non venomous.......

 

I am a little confused, I think I said 4 Venomous, not 4 Non Venomous. I believe what I originally said was correct, am I missing something? Haha


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[n0rlf]

Just now, conn_air7 said:

 

I am a little confused, I think I said 4 Venomous, not 4 Non Venomous. I believe what I originally said was correct, am I missing something? Haha


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Nope, you are correct. Still shoul be 4 species though. I am sure that means I need another drink. 

[n0rlf]

So after my poor attemp at humor I decided to get a beer. I do not drink all too often but after a horrible week I thought one would be good.

 

Got up went to fridge, spoke to wife, talked and petted the dog, Went back sat down and read the response.....realized I never did get my beer. This week has sucked!

[conn_air7]

So after my poor attemp at humor I decided to get a beer. I do not drink all too often but after a horrible week I thought one would be good.

 

Got up went to fridge, spoke to wife, talked and petted the dog, Went back sat down and read the response.....realized I never did get my beer. This week has sucked!

Haha, how could you possibly forget a beer?


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[Omega]

Hard to know which one to root for