Obama goes after gunsmithing

[gregintenn]

3 hours ago, Hershmeister said:

PS: this is "guidance" which until challenged will be used as force of law...guess whats cheaper? $2250 itar fee or going to court?

I know which direction I'd go if it ever became an issue.

[enfield]

How about building a kit muzzleloader?  I've done a lot of gunsmithin' stuff building kits.

[quietguy]

13 minutes ago, enfield said:

How about building a kit muzzleloader?  I've done a lot of gunsmithin' stuff building kits.

That seems to fall outside of the scope.  

[hipower]

I've read this thru twice now. I see this as a threat to the small gunsmith, especially those not working for an FFL, or large enough to have a manufacturing license..

Edited July 29, 2016 by hipower

[btq96r]

5 hours ago, gregintenn said:

In my country, the directorate of defense trade controls doesn't have the authority to make law, (congress does), nor do they have the authority to interpret law (the judicial branch does), so this means nothing to me.

Congress has passed legislation authorizing various federal agencies to do things like this for a while now, and courts have held up a lot of it as legal.  It's actually kind of amazing how much latitude these agencies have with things like this.

[quietguy]

17 minutes ago, btq96r said:

Congress has passed legislation authorizing various federal agencies to do things like this for a while now, and courts have held up a lot of it as legal.  It's actually kind of amazing how much latitude these agencies have with things like this.

Bureaucracy, the fourth branch!

[Volphin]

Yet another illegal impeding of commerce by the man boy.  Not law.  Carry on.

 

[Garufa]

On July 29, 2016 at 6:15 PM, btq96r said:

Congress has passed legislation authorizing various federal agencies to do things like this for a while now, and courts have held up a lot of it as legal.  It's actually kind of amazing how much latitude these agencies have with things like this.

It's called "administrative law".  I.E. regations.  I'd wager that the regulation violations one could actually be convicted and sentenced for vastly outweigh specific laws.

Here is an excellent discussion on it: https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-history-and-danger-of-administrative-law/

Edited July 31, 2016 by Garufa

[mikegideon]

On 7/28/2016 at 8:24 PM, quietguy said:

I disagree.  The way the language is constructed is way too broad.  Lapping an upper would be an violation of both the language to increase accuracy and machining.  Installing most replacement sights would violate the language, and forget about a trigger job.  

Stupid laws get ignored. Let them catch me lapping a receiver. 

[mikegideon]

On 7/29/2016 at 11:21 AM, gregintenn said:

In my country, the directorate of defense trade controls doesn't have the authority to make law, (congress does), nor do they have the authority to interpret law (the judicial branch does), so this means nothing to me.

Ding.

[JohnC]

[FreedomGunCo]

I didn't really see anything new ITAR wise.  I think this is a result of everyone and their brother writing the DOS DDTC regarding ITAR clarification similar to everyone writing the ATF/NFA over the sig brace.  They got tired of getting bombarded with letters and put out a public letter. 

[DT INC.]

No more 80% lowers then?