Military Coup taking place in Turkey

[xsubsailor]

The Turkish military has announced it has taken control and overthrown the government of Recep Erdogan as troops round up police and attack the capital Ankara. 

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3692693/Turkish-military-launch-attempted-coup-depose-government.html

[Chucktshoes]

This could prove...interesting. 

[Raoul]

Good reporting  xsubsailor.

[btq96r]

Just turned on Sky News to get some info about this.  If the military has turned against Erdogan, yet doesn't pull this off in a felt swoop, a civil war could break out.  NATO and the EU have to be very worried about the 2nd and 3rd order effects from this.

Edited July 15, 2016 by btq96r

[Raoul]

Does not NATO have nuclear weapons in Turkey?

[Raoul]

This may be problematic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing

[tacops]

Very Interesting.

[Randall53]

 

"In a statement sent by email and reported on Turkish TV channels, the military said all of Turkey's existing foreign relations would be maintained and that the rule of law would remain the priority.

According to the military tonight's action will 'reinstall the constitutional order, democracy, human rights and freedoms, to ensure that the rule of law once again reigns in the country, for the law and order to be reinstated'.

The military statement went on to say that 'all international agreements and commitments will remain. We pledge that good relations with all world countries will continue'."

 

Guess well soon see.

[Chucktshoes]

The Turkish military are the ones who have kept Turkey a secular democracy. I guess the got tired of Erdogan's Islamist shenanigans. 

[Grand Torino]

I have friends over there and they said this has been in the making for quite a while now. The military leaders are more Western in their thought and didn't care for Erdogan's hard line ideas like forcing women back in Berkas and all the rest that goes with it. I spent 6 years over there in the 80's and while most Turks are of course Muslim they didn't care what you were as long as you didn't push your ideas on them. I found them moderate for the most part and most of them reminded me of a lot of folks that call themselves Catholics here in the states but don't practice every aspect of that faith.

[Randall53]

Erdogan's antics have been polarizing the country for several years. It looks like they've called his hand. Maybe other leaders in the world will take note of what happens when one goes too far.

[btq96r]

Erdogan is being shown on TV via FaceTime while the reporter holds up an iPhone.  It doesn't look like he is anywhere official, and is probably in some secured fallback position.  He's calling for people to take to the streets.  All of it leads me to believe he isn't in control of anything of relevance at the moment.  Maybe he has supporters that can make a fight of it, but for a strongman type like Erdogan, if he could have pushed back against this coup, there would already be blood in the streets.

I wouldn't call it a takeover yet, but if the military has taken the key terrain and negated the power base of the government officials, they could very well be in control.

Edited July 15, 2016 by btq96r

[mikegideon]

18 minutes ago, Randall53 said:

 

According to the military tonight's action will 'reinstall the constitutional order, democracy, human rights and freedoms, to ensure that the rule of law once again reigns in the country, for the law and order to be reinstated'.

 

I wonder what they're doing after they are done with that guy.

[Sam1]

oops started another thread in the political section

Live reddit thread:

https://www.reddit.com/live/x9gf3donjlkq

Attack choppers shooting the Turkish intelligence building

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=44c_1468614128

 

[Sam1]

25 minutes ago, btq96r said:

Erdogan is being shown on TV via FaceTime while the reporter holds up an iPhone.  It doesn't look like he is anywhere official, and is probably in some secured fallback position.  He's calling for people to take to the streets.  All of it leads me to believe he isn't in control of anything of relevance at the moment.  Maybe he has supporters that can make a fight of it, but for a strongman type like Erdogan, if he could have pushed back against this coup, there would already be blood in the streets.

I wouldn't call it a takeover yet, but if the military has taken the key terrain and negated the power base of the government officials, they could very well be in control.

said he was on vacation or something

[btq96r]

9 minutes ago, Sam1 said:

said he was on vacation or something

Hahaha, perfect timing then.  They are showing the military at the airports in Ankara and Istanbul, and I'm imagine that's the last place they would give up control over.

[Sam1]

Tank running over some cars in the street

 

[xsubsailor]

 I bet Obama is going to be mad when he reads about this in the paper tomorrow. 

[xsubsailor]

Even Germany doesn't want him 

Turkish president Tayyip Erdoğan is reportedly seeking asylum in Europe, as a military coup continues in Turkey, U.S. military sources tell NBC News. Erdoğan's presidential jet was allegedly denied landing rights at Istanbul's airport, before heading out of the country. He was then denied asylum in Germany, according to NBC, before heading to London. Addressing Turkey via Facetime, Erdoğan asserted declared, “I am president,” and vowed to crush the opposition forces. He also said "This country can't be managed from Pennsylvania," directly linking the coup attemptto U.S.-based exiled imam Fethullah Gülen.

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/07/15/erdogan-seeks-asylum-in-germany-report.html

[A.J. Holst]

It was a military leader who transformed Turkey from part of an Islamic empire to a modern secular republic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atatürk

Hope they do it again.

[Randall53]

Obama will take him in.....maybe they can sit around and cry on each others shoulders.

 

YEP....just read it. Obama supports the present government. 

http://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2016/07/15/turkey-coup-obama-erdogan/

Here's the last comments of the article:

"Erdogan has pushed step-by-step create an Islamic state. That Islamic push is being resisted by secular, educated Turks, mostly in the major cities.

Erdogan has also tried to revive the defunct Ottoman Empire by building a new presidential palace and surrounding himself with guards dressed as the soldiers of the Ottoman empire, which collapsed in 1920. That push has been strongly resisted by neighboring Arab countries, and largely ignored by European governments."

 

Edited July 16, 2016 by Randall53

[Wingshooter]

Saying on the news that it may be a failed coup, but they are speculating.

[Scorpion Equalizer]

It has been speculated that Erdogan is the anticipated Antichrist.

[btq96r]

It may be a tinfoil moment, but part of me is starting to think this whole thing was staged in no small part.  I don't doubt there are/were parts of the military that would want to do this, but it's all gone down too perfectly for Erdogan so far. 

1)  One of the most anti-internet leaders uses FaceTime to rally his people to the streets...they seemed too ready, almost as if they were waiting and mobilized on cue.

2)  He flies into Ataturk airport?  That would have been one of the first places to be secured by the military.  Tanks could have been parked on the runways at 300-500 meter intervals to prevent a plane from landing.

If I had to speculate, he let a movement against him gain root in the army, all the while having officers loyal to him inside it, and when the coup was launched, the ones that really wanted him gone were the only ones standing out in the breeze while the rest of the army was back in the barracks.  Erdogan can use this as an excuse to purge his officer corps, and install more crackdowns on dissent domestically.

Or maybe I'm just seeing things.

[Sam1]

Yeah I just seen that they fired 5 of their supreme court judges (or whatever their high court is called) and almost 3,000 other judges/prosecutors.

http://www.dailysabah.com/politics/2016/07/16/supreme-board-of-judges-and-prosecutors-hsyk-lays-off-2745-judges

It appears the mopping up of the coup was planned better than the coup itself.