Is The "Confederate Flag" Racist?

[Fitty%]

https://youtu.be/UbuyfgWPHSg

[TNWNGR]

Good video about a difficult subject.

[Fitty%]

Good video about a difficult subject.

 

Thanks

[Grand Torino]

You did a fine job. :up:

[A.J. Holst]

ALWAYS enjoy you vids, keep on rolling!

[BrasilNuts]

Stop, stop, you're making too much sense.

Seriously though, good work.

Your General Lee video is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

I used to have a 12" plastic General Lee when I was a kid. I was jumping it down the steps one day and my momma yelled at me "Throw that thing down the steps one more time and I'll throw it in the trash!"

I miss that toy. :) Edited March 25, 2016 by BrasilNuts

[Fitty%]

You did a fine job. :up:

Thanks!

 

ALWAYS enjoy you vids, keep on rolling!

Glad you like them!

 

Stop, stop, you're making too much sense.

Seriously though, good work.

Your General Lee video is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

I used to have a 12" plastic General Lee when I was a kid. I was jumping it down the steps one day and my momma yelled at me "Throw that thing down the steps one more time and I'll throw it in the trash!"

I miss that toy. :)

 

lol....its a General Lee, how else is a boy supposed to play with it?

[Omega]

:up: Sometimes, the younger generation takes "facts" and runs with them, without taking the time to research it for themselves.  Sad really, but we have lost control of our educational system, now controlled by liberals, news and social media.

[10-Ring]

I blame the people who used the flag for evil purposes more than anything else. Their use of it gave the general public the view that it was a racist symbol regardless of what was true.

The Christian cross has been used extensively by the KKK but no one ever gets upset by that it seems.

Just my perspective when you commented about the Confederate soldiers not fighting for "the right thing" as I believe you put it. Maybe, but they thought that it was right. They didn't know what we know now. And, our wasn't really about slavery but about states rights. Just imagine today if the federal government created laws that would vastly change our way of life. Most would probably roll over and take it but back then the Confederacy took up arms to protect their way of life and what they thought was right. If that cause was not connected to slavery the perspective would be a lot different.

Another fine video sir. Not arguing just weighing in.

[Fitty%]

I blame the people who used the flag for evil purposes more than anything else. Their use of it gave the general public the view that it was a racist symbol regardless of what was true.

The Christian cross has been used extensively by the KKK but no one ever gets upset by that it seems.

Just my perspective when you commented about the Confederate soldiers not fighting for "the right thing" as I believe you put it. Maybe, but they thought that it was right. They didn't know what we know now. And, our wasn't really about slavery but about states rights. Just imagine today if the federal government created laws that would vastly change our way of life. Most would probably roll over and take it but back then the Confederacy took up arms to protect their way of life and what they thought was right. If that cause was not connected to slavery the perspective would be a lot different.

Another fine video sir. Not arguing just weighing in.

 

I didn't think you were arguing, but I like the points you made!

[rmiddle]

Personally I love the Generally Lee video.  Still one of my favorite youtube video's of all time.

 

Thanks

Robert

[TripleGGG]

Very well done. Thx

[Sidecarist]

Just my perspective when you commented about the Confederate soldiers not fighting for "the right thing" as I believe you put it. Maybe, but they thought that it was right. They didn't know what we know now. And, our wasn't really about slavery but about states rights. Just imagine today if the federal government created laws that would vastly change our way of life. Most would probably roll over and take it but back then the Confederacy took up arms to protect their way of life and what they thought was right. If that cause was not connected to slavery the perspective would be a lot different.

Most sheeple look for the quick sound bite answer to complicated issues. They don't take the time to understand the historical context, or deeper underlying thoughts. "The civil war was about slavery" is but one example. Quick and easy, but only part of the story.

Another point is that the winner gets to write history so much of the souths position has been ignored, or manipulated to fit the narrative.

For some reason I can't load the video (Internet issues on my phone), but I have liked your perspective in the past and found it well rounded and not just some more soundbites strung together. I will watch this and I'm sure it's up to your usual standards.

Written by an old Yankee that passed history class back when that meant something...

[tacops]

Excellent Commentary.

[Fitty%]

Personally I love the Generally Lee video.  Still one of my favorite youtube video's of all time.

 

Thanks

Robert

 

Glad you like it bud!

[Garufa]

No Confederate flag has 17 stars much less the "battle flag" of Tennessee.

[10-Ring]

No Confederate flag has 17 stars much less the "battle flag" of Tennessee.

Meant to ask what the deal was with that, I counted 16.

[Caster]

Great work....AGAIN.


It's just a shame that the limp minded sheeple in this country can't be bothered to base their opinions on truth and facts as you obviously do.

[Fitty%]

No Confederate flag has 17 stars much less the "battle flag" of Tennessee.

Meant to ask what the deal was with that, I counted 16.

I wasn't paying attention when I got the images from a google search. Most won't notice.....I think lol

 

Great work....AGAIN.


It's just a shame that the limp minded sheeple in this country can't be bothered to base their opinions on truth and facts as you obviously do.

lol

Edited March 26, 2016 by Fitty%TACTICAL

[Chucktshoes]

Stop, stop, you're making too much sense.

Seriously though, good work.

Your General Lee video is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

I used to have a 12" plastic General Lee when I was a kid. I was jumping it down the steps one day and my momma yelled at me "Throw that thing down the steps one more time and I'll throw it in the trash!"

I miss that toy. :)

Spotted today on I-95 heading into Delware wearing Jersey plates.

[leroy]

Fitty... This ain't aimed at you or is it intended to be a criticism of what i would term "instructional educational endeavors (...which i think your video is...)... Its an old geezer's rant about what I have observed in the current atmosphere in the discussion of issues on which there is a sharp disagreement or a revisionist position on ... The specific subject is the Civil War, it's rightness (..or wrongness...), the attendant symbols, the honor of the participants... on and on... ya get the idea.... That bein said, here goes...

 

Divergent or sharply debated views and articulations of those views are a hallmark of the American experiment... This country is one of the few truly free nations on the face of the earth where you are able to discuss all views, good, bad, or indifferent; heinous or holy, profane or good, and do it without fear of ostracism, or interference from governments and special interest jhadists... 

 

The leftist education intelligentsia, the "public discourse" intelligentsia, and the news media has so firmly planted the idea that somehow anything they (...not you...) deem to be "improper, racist, or whatever "thing dujour" they deem to be "bad"" must be prefixed with the phrase "...I'm not racist (...or whatever... fill in the blank...) but"....  

 

This idea was conjured up by these sons and daughters of satan to put anyone who disagrees with them or does not follow their "dogma" on the defensive and to set him back on his (...or her...) heels before the discussion begins... It's "defacto" giving over your right to sensible, reasoned discussion, and sometimes your First Amendment rights to "robust discussion of issues in the public forum" to your adversaries... It's an attempt at self censorship; pure and simple...

 

The lamentable lack of knowledge of the principles on which this country was founded and the re-writing of history to suit the disgusting views of jhadists of all stripes; be they the black grievance cottage industry, the anti-american hippies, the socialist demagogues, or whatever other bunch of clowns or would be tyrants hoisting their views on whatever subject has brought us to this sad point...

 

I say, don't be intimidated into being put on the defensive to explain any view you may have... You are not obliged to do those things... If you are in the debate or discussion business, that's what it means... Reasoned discussion... The hearers are obligated to listen and consider your argument; then agree or disagree with it... It's called "robust debate"... It's a hallmark of a free society...

 

There are folks out there that want you to be a slave and bow down... They want to muzzle you an intimidate you into silence and/or inaction... The demagogues, would be tyrants, and speech and history revision jhadists among us are tryin, and in some cases, succeeding in making people voluntarily give up their right to voice their opinions in the Public Square... I think that's a disgrace, and i'll not let people do that to me.... Neither should you... All of us here are Americans... We should not be afraid of folks callin us names... What if you are a bigot...?  What are they gonna do about it...?  Not a dammed thing...

 

 Remember the wise words of the great French thinker Voltaire..."... To find out who rules over you, simply see whom you are not allowed to criticize..."...There is no discussion off limits, and there is dammed sure no subject that needs a "preemptive apology" before the discussion begins... .. Your mileage may vary...

 

non apologizin leroy, the free speech geezer...

Edited March 26, 2016 by leroy

[TripleDigitRide]

No disrespect intended, but that decrepit old fart above me stole the words right out of my keyboard. ;)

[Sidecarist]

Listen CarefuLly, Think Critically, Speak Freely, repeat...

It's amazing what I have learned doing that!

Well said Leroy

[Possumslayer]

It's as racist as writing trump 2016 on a sidewalk with a piece of chalk.........

[Jamie Jackson]

Excellent and thoughtful video Fitty! As always.

 

The Logic component of the Trivium as been, I believe, purposefully removed from our educational process in order to turn it into an indoctrination process.

Rational thinking, as here exhibited, warms my heart and gives me faith that not all is lost.

 

Keep up the good work Fitty.

 

You too Leroy!  Good post Sir.

Edited March 26, 2016 by prag