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Posted (edited)
23 minutes ago, Oh Shoot said:

Anyone not prohibited from possession period can have any firearm loaded and hidden in private vehicle with no permit required in TN.

 

- OS

You say that, but cops don't know that. Especially here in Memphis. I was pulled over with my AR pistol loaded and in my truck. I showed license and CCW right off the bat. Told them there was a loaded firearm in my vehicle. I was ordered out by the cop and his partner. I had to stand with both hands on my tail gate until their supervisor got there. Was given a stern talking to about the firearm. I even had to prove it was considered a pistol. They were pretty reluctant to let me go. I the end, I still got a speeding ticket and they looked through my truck. Never assume the cops know the laws. 

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22 minutes ago, Mindless-Focus said:

You say that, but cops don't know that. Especially here in Memphis. I was pulled over with my AR pistol loaded and in my truck. I showed license and CCW right off the bat. Told them there was a loaded firearm in my vehicle. I was ordered out by the cop and his partner. I had to stand with both hands on my tail gate until their supervisor got there. Was given a stern talking to about the firearm. I even had to prove it was considered a pistol. They were pretty reluctant to let me go. I the end, I still got a speeding ticket and they looked through my truck. Never assume the cops know the laws. 

This happen since 7/2014?

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7 minutes ago, Mindless-Focus said:

This happened last September. 

I myself would have made as big a stink as possible over it, ie, file complaint with PD, approach newspaper, etc.

- OS

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I would have never said anything about weapons in my vehicle. Why open yourself up to that if there is no duty to inform? 

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3 minutes ago, Slappy said:

I would have never said anything about weapons in my vehicle. Why open yourself up to that if there is no duty to inform? 

I was trying to be respectful. I handed both license and CCW. He asked if I had a loaded firearm on me or in the vehicle. Told him I had a loaded firearm in the truck. Went from there. I was respectful and polite the entire time. Even dropped sir bombs left and right. Now, I won't even show my CCW unless asked directly. 

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Gotcha. Yeah, sometimes there's just not much you can do. I would have responded truthfully as well. 

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2 hours ago, Oh Shoot said:

Anyone not prohibited from possession period can have any firearm loaded and hidden in private vehicle with no permit required in TN.

 

- OS

You know, I've seen this and wondered if it applied to long guns, also how does that jive with hunting regulations/laws.  Since one season or another is always open and wildlife guys have full LEO powers I can see some crossover happening. Or have the regulations changed accordingly? 

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Just now, Omega said:

You know, I've seen this and wondered if it applied to long guns, also how does that jive with hunting regulations/laws.  Since one season or another is always open and wildlife guys have full LEO powers I can see some crossover happening. Or have the regulations changed accordingly? 

It applies to "firearms" under the statute.

As far as hunting, you are either hunting from a vehicle or you are not, and simply having a loaded firearm in it is not.

Carrying a handgun with HCP in the woods is not hunting with it either, unless you are.

- OS

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Just now, Oh Shoot said:

It applies to "firearms" under the statute.

As far as hunting, you are either hunting from a vehicle or you are not, and simply having a loaded firearm in it is not.

Carrying a handgun with HCP in the woods is not hunting with it either, unless you are.

- OS

Yea, tell Jereme Odom that, I bet he would say different and the way the courts are if charged you will be convicted.

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2 minutes ago, Omega said:

Yea, tell Jereme Odom that, I bet he would say different and the way the courts are if charged you will be convicted.

Do tell, search didn't find the dirt you must be referencing.

- OS

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1 minute ago, Oh Shoot said:

Do tell, search didn't find the dirt you must be referencing.

- OS

Can only quote my interaction as the rest would be hearsay, but apparently sitting outside a hunting blind trying to check zero is considered hunting even though all hunting gear in the truck including two boxes of shells camo etc, I only had two bullets for the intended purpose.  Not to mention he lied about seeing me from the road, a giraffe couldn't see me let alone a human.  Oh, and though charged with no blaze orange,  he tried to use it as leverage to get me to accept a plea, land owners don't need to so offering to drop the charge was meaningless. 

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1 hour ago, Omega said:

Can only quote my interaction as the rest would be hearsay, but apparently sitting outside a hunting blind trying to check zero is considered hunting even though all hunting gear in the truck including two boxes of shells camo etc, I only had two bullets for the intended purpose.  Not to mention he lied about seeing me from the road, a giraffe couldn't see me let alone a human.  Oh, and though charged with no blaze orange,  he tried to use it as leverage to get me to accept a plea, land owners don't need to so offering to drop the charge was meaningless. 

Well, let's see,  you weren't merely in vehicle with firearm and you weren't carrying a handgun with permit -- though it sounds like you maybe got a raw deal, those were the two issues I mentioned, neither of which seems pertinent to your situation?

What were you charged with btw, hunting out of season? What was the outcome?

- OS

 

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19 hours ago, Oh Shoot said:

Well, let's see,  you weren't merely in vehicle with firearm and you weren't carrying a handgun with permit -- though it sounds like you maybe got a raw deal, those were the two issues I mentioned, neither of which seems pertinent to your situation?

What were you charged with btw, hunting out of season? What was the outcome?

- OS

 

Charged with hunting over bait, outcome was loss of my .270 and 1 year of hunting.  You would have to see all the photos and hear the entire story to get a feel either way.  I realize that it was not vehicle related, it was about perception and the fact that though your activity may be legal, once charged good luck getting a good outcome.

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Here is my take on what happened to Omega.  Most of time when I have had interactions with police they have looked at the intent of the law.  Example, someone ran a light and hit me a couple of years ago and I didn't have my wallet and license with me.  He found me in the system and didn't ticket me.

A year or two before that I got pulled over for running a red light.  I hadn't even seen it.  Again, no ticket.  The police new that people missed that light and was really trying to educate people.

Then, there have been a few negative ones.  This didn't happen to me, but a police friend in GA was telling me about how a young cop pulled someone over.  It was a business man. When he pulled out his license a Viagra tab fell out.   The law in GA at that time said that any medication had to be in the prescription bottle and he charged the guy, even though business man told him the name of the pharmacy and suggested that he call him.

Omega's situation sounds like this example, heightened by the fact that he lied about being able to see him from the road.

This is not a post meant to slam police - there are a few dickheads in every group.

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On 6/3/2016 at 5:36 PM, Oh Shoot said:

Well, that's an idea, a tracksuit would certainly be a good "gray man" cover for a big heater in a racquet case. But not enough pockets for the rest of my loadout. ;)

A tracksuit would be good pedo cover, not so much gray man. :D

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Is this a truck gun and is that a real suppressor?

 

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I didn't see that anyone answered your question, but no that's not a real suppressor, just a "barrel shroud". As to wether it's a trunk gun or not...I've had mine with me several times, you could do worse. The only think I dislike about mine as far as a trunk gun goes is the 10 round capacity.

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I've mentioned before that I used to be a mechanic for my city. One day a couple of our officers were in the shop and the subject of firearms in vehicles came up. Both said that the vast majority of stolen gun reports they do had the firearm stolen out of a vehicle. Just something for you to think about. 

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On 6/7/2016 at 9:48 AM, Grayfox54 said:

I've mentioned before that I used to be a mechanic for my city. One day a couple of our officers were in the shop and the subject of firearms in vehicles came up. Both said that the vast majority of stolen gun reports they do had the firearm stolen out of a vehicle. Just something for you to think about. 

Little late to the party, but just wanted to point out that he mentioned putting a lockbox under his seat for the gun to live in. 

My 2 30-30 lever actions make great all around guns.  If I need more than the 6 rounds they hold in the tube before I can top it off between shots, then I am already in bad trouble.

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1 hour ago, Ronald_55 said:

Little late to the party, but just wanted to point out that he mentioned putting a lockbox under his seat for the gun to live in. 

My 2 30-30 lever actions make great all around guns.  If I need more than the 6 rounds they hold in the tube before I can top it off between shots, then I am already in bad trouble.

If you need a truck gun, you are already in trouble. I'm thinking that if a gun is in the truck because you may have to defend yourself (aka gunfight), you probably ain't gonna be fighting indians. Some kind of AR is gonna work better in a fight. My truck gun is an AR with iron sights in a takedown case.

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7 hours ago, mikegideon said:

If you need a truck gun, you are already in trouble. I'm thinking that if a gun is in the truck because you may have to defend yourself (aka gunfight), you probably ain't gonna be fighting indians. Some kind of AR is gonna work better in a fight. My truck gun is an AR with iron sights in a takedown case.

I have been thinking about getting a takedown case for mine. That work pretty good?

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7 hours ago, mikegideon said:

If you need a truck gun, you are already in trouble. I'm thinking that if a gun is in the truck because you may have to defend yourself (aka gunfight), you probably ain't gonna be fighting indians. Some kind of AR is gonna work better in a fight. My truck gun is an AR with iron sights in a takedown case.

I like ARs and will get one when budget allows it, but I also was taught by my grandfather that it doesn't matter how many shots you have if you make the first one count.   I figure since he survived World War II and being a police officer, that is opinion counts for a little bit. And if the turds really hit the blades, I'm hoofing it home where I've got a lot more set up. On a normal day, I don't have a 10 man death squad after me. I tend to avoid places and people that make that happen. 

The OP wanted an all around gun to keep in the truck. We can all debate it for a long time, but only he can decide what works well enough for him within the budget he has.

Throwing out budgets and laws, he might just decide to carry a minigun in his truck. Works for gunfights, herds of deer, rabid trucks, and cutting down trees. See, all around gun. lol

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