$5 gas in California??

[DaveTN]

I wonder how they justify this. The average gas tax is .48, theirs is .59. So it’s not a tax issue. Price fixing?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/gas-price-over-dollar5-in-california/ar-BBqkvRj?ocid=spartanntp

[2.ooohhh]

I can't speak for gas but I know our office in LA is about 6x per square foot what our office here in Brentwood was, so I imagine a chunk of it is the expense of the lease to stay in business.

[Ugly]

According to the comments the author is off by about $1 a gallon.
It is still high though. I would guess the state mandates all kinds of magical chemicals to be added to the fuel to save the environment. I know when I was stationed there (93-97)they came out with a new blend that seemed to like to eat rubber.

I had a gas cap leak on my bike not 2 weeks later, did a nice job on my finish as well.
Cars were catching fire on the side of the highway, it was rather genius leadership in the way of saving the environment.

Once I left there I never looked back. But I would bet there are all kinds of mandated additives in CA gas that adds to the price.

[Randall53]

Gas is on the rise again. Regular has gone up about 12 to 15 cents in my area in the past 7-10 days or so. It's kinda strange, but diesel has not. I saw a station last night where the regular gas and the diesel were both $1.49.

[bersaguy]

If our elected officials would tell the EPA to quit catering to the Ethanol lobbyists and do away with it our fuel costs would go down and so would the price of corn. If they did that everyone would see improved fuel mileage in what ever they drove. Fuel costs in California have always been high. Back years ago during the building of the Alaska Pipe line they made all kinds of promises to California that once completed the fuel costs would come down. "LIE" They didn't come down went up even though the states refineries did receive a bulk amount of the oil from the pipeline with Japan getting the rest. It just seems that California will always have high gas prices because California will always have politicians full with tons of promises and only providing HOT AIR................jmho  

[quietguy]

Gas is on the rise again. Regular has gone up about 12 to 15 cents in my area in the past 7-10 days or so. It's kinda strange, but diesel has not. I saw a station last night where the regular gas and the diesel were both $1.49.

We have a shortage in refining capacity, and the refineries have shifted production to diesel.  

 

According to some friends in the industry, it takes them about 6-8 weeks to shift production.  Since freight is tailing off somewhat, you will probably see gas prices trend back down in a few weeks.  

 

But again, the EPA has made it almost impossible to add refining capacity or the market could help stabilize itself.  

[quietguy]

If our elected officials would tell the EPA to quit catering to the Ethanol lobbyists and do away with it our fuel costs would go down and so would the price of corn. If they did that everyone would see improved fuel mileage in what ever they drove. Fuel costs in California have always been high. Back years ago during the building of the Alaska Pipe line they made all kinds of promises to California that once completed the fuel costs would come down. "LIE" They didn't come down went up even though the states refineries did receive a bulk amount of the oil from the pipeline with Japan getting the rest. It just seems that California will always have high gas prices because California will always have politicians full with tons of promises and only providing HOT AIR................jmho  

The real problem with California is CARB, and they impact the price we pay for everything with a fuel burning engine - from cars to weed-eaters.  

[NextExit]

The real problem with California is CARB,

The real problem with CA is the elected idiots and the idiots who keep voting for them.

Off topic but the drought there has caused some real problems....

 

[Pete123]

Simply put, it's primarily due to California idiocy. They want super environmental friendly gas, and formulating it costs a lot.

 

Remember, we are talking about the state that is just about broke, yet insists on expensive gas, giving all manner of benefits to illegal aliens, etc.... 

 

It will make my blood boil when the rest of us have to bail them out.

 

On a similar note, the CEO of Facebook is Mark Zuckerberg.  Some people that work there wrote 'black lives matter' in the places that allow drawing on the wall.  Some other people marked through 'black' and changed it to "all lives matter"

 

The CEO threw a fit at the cruelty and unacceptable behavior of the people that changed it to 'all lives matter'

 

I rest my case.

[NextExit]

On a similar note, the CEO of Facebook is Mark Zuckerberg.  Some people that work there wrote 'black lives matter' in the places that allow drawing on the wall.  Some other people marked through 'black' and changed it to "all lives matter"

 

The CEO threw a fit at the cruelty and unacceptable behavior of the people that changed it to 'all lives matter'

 

I rest my case.

 

I read that article.... I also read that only 2% of his staff are black.  :rolleyes:

[bersaguy]

I had a brother that use to live in Southern California. About 6 years ago he and his wife bought a home in Texas. At that time he said many many people he new out there where doing the same thing he did. Sell their home and ge to out of that state. He said they moved and never looked back.......He said the politics in that state are totally crazy yet the people continue re-electing them back into office over and over............ :wall:

[btq96r]

It will make my blood boil when the rest of us have to bail them out.

 

Key word in that sentence, when. And not just California or Illinois maybe with the rampant spending we'll have to bail out, but some of the red states that refused to raise taxes in revenue shortfalls.  Louisiana is currently feeling the pinch after Bobby Jindal's pre-Presidential campaign tax cut budgets that left them completely unprepared for the price of oil dropping.  Don't think they won't come to Uncle Sugar for some more money the worse things get.

 

Wait for it to get horrible in 10-20 years, when the federal government is occupied with debt repayments, the states will get less federal funding, which make up a scary amount of their budgets these days.  They'll either have to raise taxes and fees, or cut services dramatically to make ends meet.  For how that looks locally, Tennessee's FY 2014 budget had just over 41% of its total spending come from federal funding.  Again, scary amount of dependence there.