Not Impressed

[300winmag]

I'm not too impressed with the pro gun bills that I see in the legislature as far as bills that reduce restrictions on handgun carry permits.

 

Hopefully some of the bills that have been filed can be amended to cut carry restrictions.

[LagerHead]

I never will be as long as I have to beg and pay for my "constitutional" rights.

[macville]

Hey dropping the lifetime from $500 to $200 is a step in the right direction. There are also two constitutional carry bills which ain't all that bad. No bills that I've seen so far to remove -1359 entirely though...

[300winmag]

I am curious if the reduced fee bills and the constitutional carry bills will get stuck in finance committee.  There's really not much else out there besides bills that make a bunch of noise that will never get voted on.  In fact a couple of bills would make TN not recognize some out of state licenses.

Edited January 26, 2016 by 300winmag

[xsubsailor]

 I thought the constitutional carry bill was already a dead animal.

[LagerHead]

Hey dropping the lifetime from $500 to $200 is a step in the right direction. There are also two constitutional carry bills which ain't all that bad. No bills that I've seen so far to remove -1359 entirely though...

 

Funny how we keep taking steps in the right direction but never actually get any closer to true freedom.

[300winmag]

We had a five year gap from the time of the first park carry bill that opened up a few parks to legal carry to last year's park bill that opened up all parks.  So I guess we can count on any decent bill taking five years to improving a small bit on our carry permit restrictions?  Maybe in ten years folks can carry on college property with a permit and in twenty maybe the no gun sign fines will be canned?

 

A lot of the bills introduced have no chance of even being voted on the floor and are nothing more than bills that give the sponsors a pat on the back from the NRA.  You have some that are political noise, like the bill to drop VA as a state TN recognizes.  Then you have a couple that are good in theory, such as the college teacher and school carry bills, but are so restrictive that the average handgun carry permit person still risks a felony charge for carrying on school property.

Edited January 27, 2016 by 300winmag

[Omega]

We had a five year gap from the time of the first park carry bill that opened up a few parks to legal carry to last year's park bill that opened up all parks.  So I guess we can count on any decent bill taking five years to improving a small bit on our carry permit restrictions?  Maybe in ten years folks can carry on college property with a permit and in twenty maybe the no gun sign fines will be canned?

 

A lot of the bills introduced have no chance of even being voted on the floor and are nothing more than bills that give the sponsors a pat on the back from the NRA.  You have some that are political noise, like the bill to drop VA as a state TN recognizes.  Then you have a couple that are good in theory, such as the college teacher and school carry bills, but are so restrictive that the average handgun carry permit person still risks a felony charge for carrying on school property.

Yea, but now they are stepping backwards by making it illegal to carry in any park that charges a fee.

[LagerHead]

So we take two steps forward, one step back, and each step takes about five years. Goody. That means my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, grandchildren's great grandchildren might get to enjoy what is clearly written in the ####ing Constitution.

 

But hey, I ain't holdin' my breath.

Edited January 27, 2016 by LagerHead

[Caster]

Funny how we keep taking steps in the right direction but never actually get any closer to true freedom.

Kinda like walking to Hawaii ain't it? Ohh, another step closer, ain't this wonderful. ....wait, why are my lungs full of salt water?

[jughead]

take the criminal penalty out of the no gun sign would be the best thing out there right now

[300winmag]

The no gun sign fix would be the best thing and we could carry in a lot more places legally.  Maybe we can get that put in one of the bills sitting in the legislature.  There shouldn't be any kind of money impact to the state, so it should not be stalled in finance committee like the constitutional carry bills.

Edited January 27, 2016 by 300winmag

[GKar]

So, how many folks contacted their legislators and told them what bills you wanted to see?

[docachna]

Tenn. isn't the only state feeling the heat of the anti's. I moved down from Ohio in 2012. They have a great statute:

9.68 Right to bear arms - challenge to law.




(A) The individual right to keep and bear arms, being a fundamental individual right that predates the United States Constitution and Ohio Constitution, and being a constitutionally protected right in every part of Ohio, the general assembly finds the need to provide uniform laws throughout the state regulating the ownership, possession, purchase, other acquisition, transport, storage, carrying, sale, or other transfer of firearms, their components, and their ammunition. Except as specifically provided by the United States Constitution, Ohio Constitution, state law, or federal law, a person, without further license, permission, restriction, delay, or process, may own, possess, purchase, sell, transfer, transport, store, or keep any firearm, part of a firearm, its components, and its ammunition. 

(B) In addition to any other relief provided, the court shall award costs and reasonable attorney fees to any person, group, or entity that prevails in a challenge to an ordinance, rule, or regulation as being in conflict with this section. 

(C) As used in this section: 

(1) The possession, transporting, or carrying of firearms, their components, or their ammunition include, but are not limited to, the possession, transporting, or carrying, openly or concealed on a person's person or concealed ready at hand, of firearms, their components, or their ammunition. 

(2) "Firearm" has the same meaning as in section  2923.11 of the Revised Code. 


(D) This section does not apply to either of the following: 

(1) A zoning ordinance that regulates or prohibits the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms in areas zoned for residential or agricultural uses; 

(2) A zoning ordinance that specifies the hours of operation or the geographic areas where the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms may occur, provided that the zoning ordinance is consistent with zoning ordinances for other retail establishments in the same geographic area and does not result in a de facto prohibition of the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms in areas zoned for commercial, retail, or industrial uses. 


Effective Date: 03-14-2007 

It's been challenged repeatedly by municipalities who still wanted to "call their own shots" as to guns (no pun intended). Most notably "Ohioans For Concealed Carry v. Cleveland". Now there is reportedly a move on in Ohio by the anti's to repeal O.R.C. 9.68. Imagine the patchwork quilt of not knowing what the gun laws were in the next city you're driving through ???? Boggles the mind.....