Agency Arms Glock 19

[TNWNGR]

Well it's different...here's hoping it's everything you want it to be and does what you want it to do!

[ehull20000]

My internet here sucks, did you get the thumb shelf on the left side of the slide for your support hand?  I think that is one of the better frame upgrades I have seen on an Agency gun.

 

I hope it shoots good for you, those are supposedly amongst the top tier of glock pistols.  When I took my Defensive Handgun 1 course from Sage Dynamics I got to see Aaron Cowan shoot his and it seemed to be very reliable.

[jmevis]

1 hour ago, ehull20000 said:

My internet here sucks, did you get the thumb shelf on the left side of the slide for your support hand?  I think that is one of the better frame upgrades I have seen on an Agency gun.

 

I hope it shoots good for you, those are supposedly amongst the top tier of glock pistols.  When I took my Defensive Handgun 1 course from Sage Dynamics I got to see Aaron Cowan shoot his and it seemed to be very reliable.

Yes I did. The shelf is standard on both sides of the gun. I hope it shoots good too! That is encouraging to hear you saw an agency gun run well. 

[Grand Torino]

They did one heck of a job...congratulations. Now that makes a Glock actually interesting.

[sybo]

That looks really cool! Now we need an extensive range report!!

[jmevis]

Ok well I took it to the range over the weekend. I only put 100 rounds through it (a few suppressed). More to come this weekend and I'm going to start shooting IDPA with it. I ordered an RMR from optics planet with the 4th of July sale got a really good deal on it. 

The gun ran great! I can actually tell how fast the slide reciprocates. If you watch the sights they barely move and they are very easy to acquire for the next follow up shot.

I started off trying to shoot accurately, but this thing wants to be shot fast, you can feel it. Its like a sports car that is begging for a speeding ticket. So accuracy was diminished as I sped up. Each group was shot at 10 yards.

My wife shot too, but I didn't post her groups. 

 

Edited July 5, 2016 by jmevis

[nightrunner]

I don't think anyone can complain about that! 

 

Nice shooting!

[jmevis]

45 minutes ago, nightrunner said:

I don't think anyone can complain about that! 

 

Nice shooting!

Thanks man! Once I get the Agency Barrel that they owe me i'll try to sit down and sand bag it see what it can really do. 

[nightrunner]

I'm curious as I have been lookin at these but it seems like everyone that has one is either a trainer or professional reviewer. Nice to see one in unbiased hands. Just make me want one even more.

[jmevis]

10 minutes ago, nightrunner said:

I'm curious as I have been lookin at these but it seems like everyone that has one is either a trainer or professional reviewer. Nice to see one in unbiased hands. Just make me want one even more.

I shoot IDPA every month. You are more then welcome to check it out. 

[jmevis]

Ok, so over the weekend I put about 350 rounds through the gun zero issues, I have yet to have a malfunction total rounds about 450. The gun shoots flat and to an experienced shooter there is a perceivable difference in felt recoil. I let 3 other people shoot it at the range. 2 of them loved it, one couldn't tell a difference. Ill say it again this gun wants to be shot fast. The trigger reminds me of a geissele sd3g trigger. Where its more of a rolling single stage trigger then a defined 2 stage. You can take the slack out to a wall, it just takes practice to find the wall and not over drive the trigger.

After shooting on Saturday my Trijicon RMR (RM06) showed up and I installed in on Sunday. I still need to trim one of the mounting screws. I'm doing that today after work. I have never shot an RMRd gun but am excited to do so. Ill go out and sight it in this weekend. I am wondering if adding the RMR will change the felt recoil. Agency says that the RMR is lighter than the steel that is removed from the slide for it. 

 

But for your viewing pleasure here a pic with the RMR installed. I am still waiting on my Agency Match Grade TiN barrel. 

 

Edited July 11, 2016 by jmevis

[shotgunshooter]

Have you shot the gun without a light on it? If so how did it change perceived recoil?

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[jmevis]

21 minutes ago, shotgunshooter said:

Have you shot the gun without a light on it? If so how did it change perceived recoil?

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Yes. Actually only about 50 rounds have been fired with the light attached. Idk but I've never been able to tell a difference with a light attached or not. 

[jmevis]

So last night I shot an IDPA match with it. Had my first "malfunction" probably right around the 500 round mark at this point. I had to fix it quickly since it was a match, I couldn't take the time to diagnose what happened. But I believe it was a stove pipe. I started to do a tap/rack to fix it, but just tapping the mag fixed the issue and I was able to keep going. You should be able to see the issue in a video I am trying to upload.

In the interest of full disclosure, I did end up getting DQ'd last night.... first time. (I have been told that it happens to everyone.) Unfortunately I did not get it on camera. But the short of it is, that I shot the edge of cover. If you want to know the long of it I will post it further below. Since I was DQ'd I only was able to shoot 2.5 stages instead of all 4. Which also means I didn't get my score.  It's nobodies fault but mine. I ended up sticking around to help score, paste targets, and clean up afterwards. 

Click the pic for the videos. 

The stove pipe is around the 11 second mark.

 

So far I am loving the AA glock and the RMR is a very nice touch. Not one time last night did I find my self searching for the dot, I just let mechanics take over. I will say it was faster, and I felt more positive about taking shots with no-threat targets around especially at longer distances. I didn't have any FTNs or Non-threat hits, How ever I only shot 2.5 stages. 

Agency puts the factory minus connector in and I'm not sold on it, the trigger is a little mushy, more like a rolling break than a felt wall with a crisp break. Which in theory is what I like better. I might change the connector back to stock or maybe a gen4 "dot" connector if I can find one. However things like that I only noticed in dry practice during the match It didn't bother me at all. 

 

Ok now to my DQ....

My gun ran dry but did not go to slide lock. I don't count rounds so if the gun stops working I start to fit it. Slide was forward so I did a Tap/Rack and that locked the slide back. So I completed a reload behind cover, came up to break the 2nd shot on the target before moving to the next position, pushed the gun out got my red dot on the target and squeezed off the shot. And it went right through the PCV frame that holds the wall up. This was the fist time anything like this has ever happened to me in my 5-6 years of shooting local IDPA matches.

I am left eye dominate and right handed. In my haste to get the gun back up and running I didn't verify my off set. My left eye seeing the dot through cover and my right eye seeing the target around cover I sent a 9mm round through the PVC pipe. Funny thing is, is that I still hit the A zone. And I guess you can't hit cover unless you are more than 6 feet away. And I was probably 3 feet away. RSO called cease fire and I was benched the rest of the night. 

 

I shoot IDPA once a month so I continue to shoot matches with it. 

 

 

Edited July 22, 2016 by jmevis

[ehull20000]

I also believe you had a stove pipe.  Did you have any brass to face issues with the gun before mounting the RMR?

 

That sucks about the DQ and I'm glad you or anyone else was not hurt.  

[jmevis]

1 hour ago, ehull20000 said:

I also believe you had a stove pipe.  Did you have any brass to face issues with the gun before mounting the RMR?

 

That sucks about the DQ and I'm glad you or anyone else was not hurt.  

No I don't believe so. But I've had stove pipes with 100% stock Glocks too. Heck even double feeds. Got videos to prove it lol. 

 

Yeah the DQ was definitely a learning experience with the red dot. Can't be upset about it, just learn and move forward. 

[ehull20000]

I have as well. I was just curious.  I honestly don't remember the date of the last stove pipe or failure I had with my Glock, but I do know it has happened and I expect it to happen again.  That's what training and practice is for.  

 

I wasn't trying to dog on your gun, it is very nice.  Let me know what brass marks you find on your RMR and if they compare to mine as seen below.  

 

[jmevis]

7 hours ago, ehull20000 said:

I have as well. I was just curious.  I honestly don't remember the date of the last stove pipe or failure I had with my Glock, but I do know it has happened and I expect it to happen again.  That's what training and practice is for.  

 

I wasn't trying to dog on your gun, it is very nice.  Let me know what brass marks you find on your RMR and if they compare to mine as seen below.  

 

We're good man. I didn't think you were.  It didn't come off that way either. 

 

Mine doesnt have any brass marks yet. Haven't shot it enough yet. But I'm looking forward to earning them! 

Edited July 23, 2016 by jmevis

[jmevis]

Well yesterday I finally got my TiN Agency Barrel. Its basically a S3F Solutions barrel that is machined further by Agency. I have to say, man it looks good. I haven't shot it yet but i have no doubt that it'll be accurate. The lock up is tighter then my Silencer Co & Stock Glock barrel. There is still some play if you press down on the chamber but it is very minimal. Especially compared my other options. The feed ramp and crown are polished thats a nice touch, we'll see how it looks after a few hundred rounds. The fluting is very nicely done and I can feel that this barrel is lighter then my SiCo barrel, but that could also be because the SiCo is threaded.

 

I honestly don't think there is anything else i can do to it. Maybe some TiN receiver pins, but IDK about that. 

Let me know if you have any questions, or if you want specific pictures. 

[tercel89]

What type of recoil spring assembly does it have ?

[jmevis]

56 minutes ago, tercel89 said:

What type of recoil spring assembly does it have ?

You know I'm not sure... They changed it from stock to a metal guide rod. Im assuming they changed the spring as well. It is a single spring not sure of the #. I'll ask them.

 

Edited September 8, 2016 by jmevis

[jmevis]

2 hours ago, tercel89 said:

What type of recoil spring assembly does it have ?

ISMI Stainless Steel Guide Rod and Flat Wire Spring.