Oregon looking at new law!!!

[bersaguy]

http://www.oregonfirearms.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/mental-health-bill.pdf

[monkeylizard]

Kinda surprised those hippies don't already have that law on the books.

[peejman]

It's a good thing crazy people don't hurt others with anything other than guns.  :shake:

 

 

A few observations....

 

1. Notification of the person subject to the hold is not required.

 

2. There is no specified maximum or minimum duration for the hold, no periodic review requirements.   

 

3. There's no time requirement for the hold to be released after the person provides documentation to that effect.  Five days to hear a petition, but no time limit on final judgement. 

 

4. It says "clear and convincing evidence" is required to release the hold, but makes no qualifying statements on what's required to create the hold. 

[monkeylizard]

You don't think that's intentional, do you?

[peejman]

Nah, couldn't be. 

[mikegideon]

I hate gun control as much or more than anybody. With that said, temporarily restraining somebody that has gone totally apeshit doesn't bother me so much. Temporary inconvenience is 99% of what the government does. It bothers me a lot more that nonviolent "felons" lose their rights forever. Of course, plenty of room for abuse, especially in a place like Oregon. 

 

So, if your drunk uncle bites the head off your chihuahua, keep him out of the gun store until he at least apologizes.

[hipower]

It's a shame such a beautiful state is inhabited by this sort.   :doh:

[No_0ne]

I hate gun control as much or more than anybody. With that said, temporarily restraining somebody that has gone totally ape#### doesn't bother me so much. Temporary inconvenience is 99% of what the government does. It bothers me a lot more that nonviolent "felons" lose their rights forever. Of course, plenty of room for abuse, especially in a place like Oregon. 

 

So, if your drunk uncle bites the head off your chihuahua, keep him out of the gun store until he at least apologizes.

 

Ah, I see you've met my uncle then ...

[monkeylizard]

Sorry about your Chihuahua. When I hit the fire water, I get crazy.

[Peace]

Thoughts:  - make it clear, notification to "patient" required, and allow any equally qualified "reporter" to clear the patient in the same manner as they were declared "unclear".

 

-In my opinion, making the path to clear someone's name more arduous (or even so vague that no discernable path exists) than the path to "convict" is an abuse of "rule of law".  - not that we haven't been doing that for a long, long time.

 

-If this devolves into "legal assault of people who do things we don't like", it is going to get tiresome.   (like "swatting" - but the legal version)

 

- More conservative-minded folk of all walks of life (color, background, culture, etc) need to be studying to be doctors (mental health as well), lawyers, and financial wizards.  Otherwise, the future looks a bit bleak.

[mikegideon]

 

Sorry about your Chihuahua. When I hit the fire water, I get crazy.

 

 

Don't sweat it. He was daring you to do it.

[No_0ne]

 

Sorry about your Chihuahua. When I hit the fire water, I get crazy.

 

 

I don't like those little rat-dogs anyway, always felt they made good snacks for real dogs ...

[Zombiehunter]

I don't like those little rat-dogs anyway, always felt they made good snacks for real dogs ...

Dog Lives Matter!  ;)