Why can't Kel-Tek...

[Steelharp]

If Glock can make a 9mm launcher with a 3, 4, 5 lb trigger... why does Kel-Tek have to install the 462 lb variety? The P-11 would be an ideal pocket 9, with about a 4.5 lb trigger...

[VERO1]

I don't know. Price point maybe? To many guts crammed in to small a place? Combination of the three? I'm sure someone will come up with a spring kit for them soon due to their popularity and everyones general dislike of the trigger. Get on the stick there Wilson, Brownell,etc we're tired of waiting already!

[Guest JLowe]

Because Kel-Tecs aren't Glocks. If Kel-Tec made their guns better, they would have to charge more.

[Guest truthsayer]

I carry my P-11 a lot. I, for one, don't mind the trigger. For what it is, it's a damn good gun. I've suggested it to a lot of people who bought one and loved it. JLowe is right.... it's not a Glock. When I want to shoot something that feels like a Glock, I shoot my G17.

[Guest abailey362]

my personal opinion is that is their "safety" mechanism, just as a lot of other small gun manufacturers use a heavy trigger pull as.

glocks have all their internal safeties and all that jazz that it's ok to have a 1/2# trigger pull.....until you shoot yer goober off

[alwayspackin]

You can make it have a 4lb trigger pull if you would like. Just go to the ket-tek website and go to work. But, I must warn you. Be prepared to shoot yourself. The first time you drop it will go boooommmm!!!

The stiff trigger is the safety on this gun. Several guns are made this way for the reason of being a CCW. A good polishing on the guts will do wonders for this weapon. All of kel-teks parts are tumbled instead of polished. This leaves them a little rough.

[Guest nraforlife]

Maybe if Plaxico Burress had that in his pants he would not have shot himself in the butt.

[Steelharp]

You can make it have a 4lb trigger pull if you would like. Just go to the ket-tek website and go to work. But, I must warn you. Be prepared to shoot yourself. The first time you drop it will go boooommmm!!!

Why? It has a hammer that's completely enclosed in the slide. Why would dropping it make it go off?

[Oh Shoot]

Why? It has a hammer that's completely enclosed in the slide. Why would dropping it make it go off?

Hammer?

Surely the P11 and PF9 are striker fired actions?

(maybe alwayspackin means that some of the modifications make the gun no longer drop safe, I dunno)

- OS

[alwayspackin]

It does have a hammer on the gun. But the hammer spring has to be modified or weakened so to speak to lower the trigger pull. When this is done this allows the hammer to fly back very easy. The hammer mechanism on this gun acts as the sear does on a glock. The hammer spring is the only spring inside this gun. This is just the way kel-tec's where designed. They are not glocks. I carry a p-11 with me all the time. I trust my life with it. Yes, I have done a little work to the inside. Say a fluff and buff as some call it. It shoots a 145 grain bullet very well. I have fired approximately 1000 rounds threw it. I shoot it every time I go to the range.

[Guest truthsayer]

Hammer?

Surely the P11 and PF9 are striker fired actions?

(maybe alwayspackin means that some of the modifications make the gun no longer drop safe, I dunno)

- OS

Nope... there's a hammer in there.

"The trigger connects via a transfer bar to the hammer. The hammer is driven by a novel free floating extension spring. The light weight firing pin transmits the energy of the hammer to ignite the primer."

(from http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/p11.htm)

(from gunblast.com)

[Oh Shoot]

It does have a hammer on the gun. ...

Ah so, I C.

Matter of fact, if I had just gone to Kel-Tec and looked, would have seen that, doh.

Here's PF-9 animation (the P11 looks similar, just wasn't animated):

[Guest JLowe]

It does have a hammer on the gun. But the hammer spring has to be modified or weakened so to speak to lower the trigger pull. When this is done this allows the hammer to fly back very easy. The hammer mechanism on this gun acts as the sear does on a glock. The hammer spring is the only spring inside this gun. This is just the way kel-tec's where designed. They are not glocks. I carry a p-11 with me all the time. I trust my life with it. Yes, I have done a little work to the inside. Say a fluff and buff as some call it. It shoots a 145 grain bullet very well. I have fired approximately 1000 rounds threw it. I shoot it every time I go to the range.

Thats why it shoots so well. From what I've seen and heard, you have to shoot the crap out of a Kel-Tec before it will run properly all the time.

Get some Emory Cloth and buff your internals out. Do NOT mess with your springs if you don't know what your doing. Get a qualified gunsmith to do it. if you just shoot the gun more, it will wear in.

[Fadex]

Yep...a dremel tool with polishing attachments and jewelers rouge is your friend. After a few hundred rounds followed by cleaning and polishing it's much better.