Carrying around people who don't share your views of protection.

[Mike.357]

If they are liberals I have a difficult time considering them as family.

 

 

wish I could dislike this.  Family comes first.  You don't get to pick them.  You do get to pick what you prefer to do. Live with all consequences.

[Ron_TN]

Carry concealed and avoid the drama. Who needs it?

Amen.......I dont need to advertise that I may have to shoot someone to protect me or my familly

Edited November 28, 2015 by Ron_TN

[Spots]

wish I could dislike this. Family comes first. You don't get to pick them. You do get to pick what you prefer to do. Live with all consequences.

I got family that ain't blood and blood that ain't family. They make their choices and I make mine. If they want to be an asshole or a liberal, socialist, communist, anti-gun, or whatever then that's a choice they make. And I can make the choice to simply not be around them. I've got a cousin that's anti-gun and super liberal. Haven't spoke to the guy in years. He wants to see me, he knows where I live and what my phone number is, he can come see me at my place, guns and all.

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[Wyldk2]

Well, for one. He lives in Atlanta and there is no way in hell I'm leaving it in the car in that city. I don't have to have it on me all the time in his house, but I feel a lot safer knowing it's within my easy reach if needed.

I have not mentioned it nor has he asked about it so I'm keeping my mouth shut on this with him and her.

Secondly, I'm not here in my vehicle. I'm with our father in his vehicle.

No kids in the house and no danger of it falling into the wrong hands while here still, there is that chance.

As for his "hood". Well he lives in an older neighborhood in kirkwood,Atlanta. Maybe I'm being paranoid but I'm used to smaller country towns where you know most people you live around. I don't know anyone in his neighborhood and since he just moved here this summer, it's only my second time visiting him at his new place. But I don't think there would be a home invasion while we are here but these days one can never know. Edited November 28, 2015 by Wyldk2

[Mike.357]

I got family that ain't blood and blood that ain't family. They make their choices and I make mine. If they want to be an asshole or a liberal, socialist, communist, anti-gun, or whatever then that's a choice they make. And I can make the choice to simply not be around them. I've got a cousin that's anti-gun and super liberal. Haven't spoke to the guy in years. He wants to see me, he knows where I live and what my phone number is, he can come see me at my place, guns and all.

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how do you have family that are not blood?  I am happy you can make choices.  

 

I decide if guns come before people.  Sometimes they do sometimes they don't.   Anti gun does not make someone socialist or communist or assholish,  or whatever. It is a choice you made.

[Spots]

how do you have family that are not blood? I am happy you can make choices.

I decide if guns come before people. Sometimes they do sometimes they don't. Anti gun does not make someone socialist or communist or assholish, or whatever. It is a choice you made.

I didn't say it did. I'm saying people make their own choices to be what they want to be, and I make my choices to be involved in their life or not. As far as family that's not blood, I've got brothers I went to war with and brothers in my motorcycle club who are closer and better family than most of my real family. They call me more often, we visit alot more and they care more about me and my family's well being than a lot of my very close family does. They have my back at all times and I have theirs. That's what makes them family, not the fact that they were born with the same last name.

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[Mike.357]

I didn't say it did. I'm saying people make their own choices to be what they want to be, and I make my choices to be involved in their life or not. As far as family that's not blood, I've got brothers I went to war with and brothers in my motorcycle club who are closer and better family than most of my real family. They call me more often, we visit alot more and they care more about me and my family's well being than a lot of my very close family does. They have my back at all times and I have theirs. That's what makes them family, not the fact that they were born with the same last name.

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"I got family that ain't blood and blood that ain't family." That is your line. Most people assume family includes blood relatives.  How you treat them is your choice.

 

all I am saying is life is not all about a gun.  If it is I don't want any part of that.   Family is family, guns have nothing to do with it.  I would never deny family. I can decide who i want to back up regardless.

Edited November 28, 2015 by Mike.357

[Dolomite_supafly]

The reason I won't be around my family has zero to do with their stance on guns. It does have to do with the fact my brother tried to kill us and my parents sided with him. He tried to kill us because I cut him off. I found out his girlfriend "Crystal" was actually his way of thumbing his nose at me when he said he was getting money for his date with "Crystal".

After my brother tried to kill us my mother asked me if it was worth it. I asked her what she meant and she said it was my fault he tried to kill us because I cut him and her off months earlier. I cut her off at the same time because she would "borrow" money from us to feed my brother's drug habit.

And my father's response was if I ever called the cops on anyone again he would take care of me and my family while making a gun with his fingers and plugging it at me.

That is the reason I will not have anything to go with them. Several people here have witnessed the spiteful, lunacy that is my father. Edited November 28, 2015 by Dolomite_supafly

[FTE]

I just refuse to spend...err waste time with people of differing opinions.
Family or stranger makes no never mind to me.

Honestly, I can't imagine living my life only associating with those that share my political views. I know a lot of people choose to live this way, but I just can't imagine....



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[Caster]

"I got family that ain't blood and blood that ain't family." That is your line. Most people assume family includes blood relatives. How you treat them is your choice.

all I am saying is life is not all about a gun. If it is I don't want any part of that. Family is family, guns have nothing to do with it. I would never deny family. I can decide who i want to back up regardless.

I suppose we part ways on this one Mike. I washed my hands of the majority of my "blood relatives" many moons ago. I had had enough of their narcissistic, deluded over inflated ego. To me, family ain't got squat to do with similar DNA markers and common blood types. If it DOES and I'm wrong, then piss on the paradigm of "family".
Life is too short to be tormented over some silly sense of loyalty to a bloodline.
How ridiculous is it to spend time with people you can't stand to be within 100 yards of, all for the respect of common ancestors?

You earn your right to be family, it's not handed to you at birth. Not for me anyway. Edited November 28, 2015 by Caster

[dralarms]

The reason I won't be around my family has zero to do with their stance on guns. It does have to do with the fact my brother tried to kill us and my parents sided with him. He tried to kill us because I cut him off. I found out his girlfriend "Crystal" was actually his way of thumbing his nose at me when he said he was getting money for his date with "Crystal".

After my brother tried to kill us my mother asked me if it was worth it. I asked her what she meant and she said it was my fault he tried to kill us because I cut him and her off months earlier. I cut her off at the same time because she would "borrow" money from us to feed my brother's drug habit.

And my father's response was if I ever called the cops on anyone again he would take care of me and my family while making a gun with his fingers and plugging it at me.

That is the reason I will not have anything to go with them. Several people here have witnessed the spiteful, lunacy that is my father.

 

 

Dang, Gordon. That's rough. Sorry about your "family". No one should be treated the way you have been,

[CommsNBombs]

Well I missed all the fun it seems.

Anyways, it is their house and their rules - but if they can't see it, and do not ask you it is not their business. "Out of sight, out of mind."

All the big cities are not as bad as they are made out to be - granted I grew up in one so it doesn't phase me, but people CAN sniff out out of towners, and theyll try something.

Bring the gun. Hell bring 2. Might turn into a good conversation piece, who knows.

And for the other theme of this thread, I am with Spots. I got blood relatives that are giant bowls of douche that I do not assosciate with, and I have people whom are not my blood relatives but are considered family because I grew up with them.

Life is too damn long and full of stupidity, keeping around poisonous people makes it that much worse.

I do have people who do not share my political views, I am friends with all sorts of people from all sorts of places - but I do not hold exception for family, if they want to be douchebags theyre far worse than a stranger, family is supposed to support you and if my Satan worshipping communist friend from Cali is more supportive of my beliefs - to hell with family.

My $0.02

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[Will Carry]

I feel your pain. "You're not going to carry your pistol to the park are you? YOUR GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE THERE!" I have people in my family that just don't understand. I tell them: "It is perfectly legal, I have had lots of training and my grandchildren will be well protected." My wife now understands why I carry, now she carries too.

[teecro]

I have not mentioned it nor has he asked about it so I'm keeping my mouth shut on this with him and her.

 

 

As for myself I don't go looking for or making issues where there are perhaps none.... My question is this: Does your brother know that you carry? And if he does has he spoken as to not wanting you to carry in his home? Will there be a big $hit stir if you are perhaps discovered?

[Mike.357]

That is the reason I will not have anything to go with them. Several people here have witnessed the spiteful, lunacy that is my father.

 

I can vouch for that.

[FTE]

Remember, if we want others to respect our rights, then we need to respect theirs, too.


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[Mike.357]

I suppose we part ways on this one Mike. I washed my hands of the majority of my "blood relatives" many moons ago. I had had enough of their narcissistic, deluded over inflated ego. To me, family ain't got squat to do with similar DNA markers and common blood types. If it DOES and I'm wrong, then piss on the paradigm of "family".
Life is too short to be tormented over some silly sense of loyalty to a bloodline.
How ridiculous is it to spend time with people you can't stand to be within 100 yards of, all for the respect of common ancestors?

You earn your right to be family, it's not handed to you at birth. Not for me anyway.

 

 

i see you point Caster. Yours too Spots.  Gordon's post reminded me some points that make total sense.  

 

 I guess I am lucky in a way that none of my family forces me to make a decision about guns.  I disagree with some on other things, but If I have to be around them I can deal with what they want if I have to.

 

Ha,  I bet I am about the first person on this board to have their mind changed by points made by a few others!   You sure don't see that much around here.

Edited November 28, 2015 by Mike.357

[Caster]

I know families that are so tight, you couldn't get a feeler gauge between them. To say I'm envious would be an understatement but I didn't get dealt that hand. I don't whine about it, I just chunk it back in the pot melt it down and cast me something I can actually use.

If any of you DO have a family like that and you haven't told them what it means to you....shame on you. You should close out your browser and do it now.

[Wyldk2]

The reason I won't be around my family has zero to do with their stance on guns. It does have to do with the fact my brother tried to kill us and my parents sided with him. He tried to kill us because I cut him off. I found out his girlfriend "Crystal" was actually his way of thumbing his nose at me when he said he was getting money for his date with "Crystal".
After my brother tried to kill us my mother asked me if it was worth it. I asked her what she meant and she said it was my fault he tried to kill us because I cut him and her off months earlier. I cut her off at the same time because she would "borrow" money from us to feed my brother's drug habit.
And my father's response was if I ever called the cops on anyone again he would take care of me and my family while making a gun with his fingers and plugging it at me.
That is the reason I will not have anything to go with them. Several people here have witnessed the spiteful, lunacy that is my father.
 
 
Dang, Gordon. That's rough. Sorry about your "family". No one should be treated the way you have been,

Sorry gordon, seems like your "family" has forgotten what really should matter. I would do the same if I were in your shoes though.

[Dolomite_supafly]

I have reached out three times since then trying to work on becoming a family again. Fortunately they refuse as I know the drama will ensue the second we did. Edited November 29, 2015 by Dolomite_supafly

[Caster]

After some of the crap you've told me, you can't afford NOT to carry around family bud.  

[bersaguy]

I have reached out three times since then trying to work on becoming a family again. Fortunately they refuse as I know the drama will ensue the second we did.

But none of that compares to what someone did to my family and I last week. And they did it for no other reason than to be spiteful in hopes it hurts my family and I over the holidays. It is something I will NEVER forget and I will be dead before I forgive what they have done.

Maybe I will explain but then again maybe I won't.

Edited November 29, 2015 by bersaguy

[Pete123]

My thought would be to to conceal carry when around them and to respect their property by leaving your gun in the car when there.

 

I lived in Atlanta for 20 years.  Kirkwood is probably ok, though it is an island surrounded by a sea of bad neighborhoods.  Maybe you could take pepper spray into their home and keep it out of sight.

 

Kirkwood is right in the middle of Dekalb County.  Dekalb county has the largest jail east of the Mississippi, or at least it did when I was there.  I spent a lot of time in that jail trying to help guys figure out how to not be there.  There is lots and lots and lots and lots of crack addiction in Dekalb County.

 

Also, I've been gone for ten years, so my comments are somewhat dated, though basically they should be correct.

[BlackHawk93]

I can sympathize with those of you who have family that have hurt you, turned their backs on you, or just simply don't really care about each other and what the concept of a "family" means. I too come from a group of DNA linked individuals who don't give a d#*^ about each other and it hurts. 

 

I recently lost most everything I own in a house fire and I had people I didn't even know stop in front of my house and hand me a $5 bill or offer to help me with clothes or even move some stuff. Not one member of my family ever offered to come help. A few of them called to say they were sorry, but I feel it was more for their own sense of "reaching out" than it was for my benefit. I also had some who never called at all, and are now embarrassed because of their inability to care about anyone except themselves.

 

While I always carry concealed, my family knows I carry. No one says anything to my face about it, but when I leave comments are made about how I must feel inadequate as a man and that I must be a female body part for feeling the need for it. These are the same people who thank me for being in the profession Im in and sometimes having to work holidays so that people make it to the hospital within the "Golden Hour". It hurts to know that they care so little about me, and I have problems sometimes believing they are related to me, as I would not blink an eye if any of them needed help. Nor would they have to ask me either.

 

Say what they want about me, but if any of them, or any of you, ever needed my help, either before OR AFTER a gunfight, I'd do whatever I could to help anyone. Its just how I feel. I sometimes wonder if I'm adopted.

[dats82]

If your brother hasn't specifically said, "Hey, don't carry your gun here," or other similar words, there would be no question what I would do. 

 

I carry every single day.  I don't care where I am going.  If anyone tells me they don't want me to carry a gun at their house, I would respect their wishes, and then I'd make a decision if I wanted to go or not.  In the past approximately 10 yrs that I've been carrying, I've never once been asked if I were carrying.  If it has been spotted, nobody has ever asked me about it.  All that is to say that my opinion, for basically all situations, is that if you keep your mouth shut and your gun concealed, there will be no issue. 

 

I had Thanksgiving dinner at my house with ten friends and family members. I had an sr9c concealed on my hip the whole time.  Conversation was good, turkey was great, and guns were never a topic.