ATF tracing guns

[FortKnox]

http://wkrn.com/2015/11/20/atf-works-to-trace-guns-used-in-violent-crime/

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WKRN) – The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives recovered more than 5,800 firearms in Tennessee last year.

Guns stolen during home break-ins and car burglaries are often used in violent crimes later.

Just last year, the ATF recovered 5,839 firearms. It’s able to trace a gun back to its manufacturer and last legal sale from a licensed dealer.

“We all know that violent crimes are committed with firearms everything from robberies to aggravated assaults to attempted murder to gang shootings,” Assistant Special Agent in charge of the Nashville field office Jack Webb said. “Our main concern is violent crime and the use of firearms during those violent crimes.”

For example, the Metro Nashville Police Department was able to trace the gun used to kill Treyonta Burleson, 14, on Nov. 3 to a car break-in back in 1994. The gun was missing for 21 years.

Webb said guns stolen from legal gun owners are commonly sold or given to criminals.

“We encourage people when they store their fire arms either in their vehicles or in their homes to put trigger locks on them,” Webb said. “If it is stolen and it has a trigger lock it can’t be used.”

There are also burglaries of licensed gun dealers like the break-in at Guns & Leather in Hendersonville on Nov. 15 where the thieves crashed a stolen car through the front of the building.

The ATF, along with the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), is offering a $6,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the people responsible.

“In a crime like that, we are concerned because we know those guns are going to either be sold to be used in a criminal act or will be used in a criminal way by the people who stole them,” Webb said.
The ATF also tracks where guns recovered in Tennessee come from. In 2014, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama and Kentucky were among the top 15 source states for guns.
IT also warns people not to become “straw buyers” or they can face prison time. A straw buyer is someone who legally buys a firearm to give or sale to someone who is prohibited from owning a gun.

The ATF and NSSF are partnering in the national campaign titled “Don’t Lie For the Other Guy” to raise awareness about straw purchases.

If you buy a gun for someone who can’t legally buy one for themselves, you can face up to 10 years in prison.

[runco]

Let me see, last legal sale from a licensed dealer, hogwash! Legal sales can and do occur on down the chain, get the facts straight. Trigger locks makes the firearm useless, hogwash. Give a criminal a drill, bolt cutters, or screw driver, and it can be used, get the facts straight. Just my 2 cents.

[BrasilNuts]

"We encourage people when they store their fire arms either in their vehicles or in their homes to put trigger locks on them,” Webb said. “If it is stolen and it has a trigger lock it can’t be used.”

They had enough skill to break into your home or car, but are going to be foiled by the complex trigger lock?

sigh....

[MrsMonkeyMan2500]

Let me see, last legal sale from a licensed dealer, hogwash! Legal sales can and do occur on down the chain, get the facts straight. Trigger locks makes the firearm useless, hogwash. Give a criminal a drill, bolt cutters, or screw driver, and it can be used, get the facts straight. Just my 2 cents.

That happened in our home. Monkey had a rifle he bought in 2003, traded it in 2007. Got a let from a Chief down in Texas asking about the gun. Matt still had receipts and told the chief good luck. But the chief told him he has to wait on the ATF to run it and see who the original owner was. They then contacted our LSD to get our phone/address. Sheriff would only give him address so we got a letter. Totally weird. And we're still wondering what it was about.

[runco]

That happened in our home. Monkey had a rifle he bought in 2003, traded it in 2007. Got a let from a Chief down in Texas asking about the gun. Matt still had receipts and told the chief good luck. But the chief told him he has to wait on the ATF to run it and see who the original owner was. They then contacted our LSD to get our phone/address. Sheriff would only give him address so we got a letter. Totally weird. And we're still wondering what it was about.

My point, it is legal to sale post FFL transaction, the article made out that this was the final point of a legal sale, which is not true. 

Edited November 21, 2015 by runco

[suspiciousmind]

Hang on Mr. Carjacker. I need to take the trigger lock off.

[bersaguy]

Sometimes I wonder just how some of these ATF people find their way home at night after work. These are the people that are suppose to be up to date on fire arms and yet can make some of the most stupid statements ever. It just shows their ignorance to what they actually do know and yet these are the people we are suppose to learn from............ :shrug:

[Pete123]

Hang on Mr. Carjacker. I need to take the trigger lock off.

 

+1

[Oh Shoot]

My point, it is legal to sale post FFL transaction, the article made out that this was the final point of a legal sale, which is not true. 

 

Well, sorta.

 

"It’s able to trace a gun back to its manufacturer and last legal sale from a licensed dealer."

 

Actually, can only for sure trace to first sale from a FFL. Any subsequent FFL transfers in most states wouldn't necessarily be found unless they can suss that out by talking to the chain of individuals involved along the way.

 

Even the records from out of biz FFLs in National Tracing Center need to be searched manually (supposedly), so again they'd have to know which FFL before searching, etc.

 

Then there are the states that have actual gun registration, that's another source.

 

- OS

Edited November 21, 2015 by Oh Shoot