New carry gun in 7.62x39

[Dolomite_supafly]

http://www.guns.com/2015/08/18/heizers-pocket-ak-now-shipping/

 

For those times when you need a flash to take someone's picture.

 

Seriously though, that fireball must be pretty impressive. Might make a decent last ditch gun for those carrying other firearms in 7.62x39.

[gregintenn]

I don't know how you could hold onto that. :stunned:

 

Ear protection would be a big deal as well.

[Caster]

Face meets palm.

[Defender]

I think I've seen online a 12 gauge version of this...

[Dolomite_supafly]

I think I've seen online a 12 gauge version of this...

Not legal in the US unless it is registered as a NFA device.

 

Basically shotguns, with smooth bores, can't be pistols and pistols, with rifled barrels, cannot have a bore larger than .500". 12 gauge bore diameter is ~.73" in diameter.

[Defender]

Not legal in the US unless it is registered as a NFA device.

 

Basically shotguns, with smooth bores, can't be pistols and pistols, with rifled barrels, cannot have a bore larger than .500". 12 gauge bore diameter is ~.73" in diameter.

Yeah, I know...but I could swear Ive seen one online somewhere, lol.

[10-Ring]

Sure it has poor bullet performance at that velocity, but should be negated thee inevitable burning and deafening of anyone being shot by it.

[Defender]

Yeah, I know...but I could swear Ive seen one online somewhere, lol.

maybe this is the one i Saw before...not 12, but 410...

http://heizerdefense.com/category/products/guns/ps1-guns/

[Dolomite_supafly]

Sure it has poor bullet performance at that velocity, but should be negated thee inevitable burning and deafening of anyone being shot by it.

Or the one shooting it, bystanders and probably anyone within a square block.

[Dolomite_supafly]

https://instagram.com/p/4j05uoi0BP/

 

There is a picture of the ports. Not sure I want to shoot it with the ports facing backwards.

 

But I suspect the pressures never really get to full 7.62x39 pressures because of the porting and short barrel. I would really like to see the same pistol with a 10" barrel and no porting. I bet it would not survive.

[Caster]

It needs a suppressor and it'll be fine. Lol!!

[musicman]

It needs a suppressor and it'll be fine. Lol!!

Haha! 2" barrel, 14" suppressor. Makes sense to me! :-D

[Motasyco]

Well, I was on board until I saw it was a single shot.

[mikegideon]

https://instagram.com/p/4j05uoi0BP/

 

There is a picture of the ports. Not sure I want to shoot it with the ports facing backwards.

 

But I suspect the pressures never really get to full 7.62x39 pressures because of the porting and short barrel. I would really like to see the same pistol with a 10" barrel and no porting. I bet it would not survive.

 

Probably not, but they get up there...

 

2" Barrel

 

 

16" Barrel...

 

[peejman]

Pfffft.  Amateurs.

 

 

[Dolomite_supafly]

Probably not, but they get up there...

 

2" Barrel

 

 

16" Barrel...

 

 

BIG difference in pressures between 2" and 10", ~30K at 2" and over 50K at 10". I seriously doubt it can stand an increase of that much. But hey, it was never designed to work with a long barrel so it is a moot point anyway.

 

Curious though, what are the numbers with A1680 as the powder? It is considered the "AK" powder.

[mikegideon]

BIG difference in pressures between 2" and 10", ~30K at 2" and over 50K at 10". I seriously doubt it can stand an increase of that much. But hey, it was never designed to work with a long barrel so it is a moot point anyway.

 

Curious though, what are the numbers with A1680 as the powder? It is considered the "AK" powder.

 

Read the lower right hand corner box in pinkish. 2" reaches 50,000 psi. doesn't account for ports, though. I figure that drops it some, maybe a lot.

 

1680 is almost identical. A little slower, and requires a little more.

[Dolomite_supafly]

I was reading the graphs wrong. Got confused, sorry.

[dcloudy777]

So basically it's a single shot 7.62 Tokarev, with a built-in short range flamethrower....

 

:pleased:

Edited August 19, 2015 by dcloudy777

[mikegideon]

Over half the powder charge is leaving the barrel with the bullet

[darsk20]

Pfffft. Amateurs.

Now you have me thinking. If only SKS'S were still $70 a pop.

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[GlockSpock]

[quote name="darsk20" post="1297902" timestamp="1440005680"]Now you have me thinking. If only SKS'S were still $70 a pop.

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That was a Mosin...not SKS. Maybe you knew that.


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[darsk20]

[quote name="CZ9MM" post="1297904" timestamp="1440006119"][quote name="darsk20" post="1297902" timestamp="1440005680"]Now you have me thinking. If only SKS'S were still $70 a pop.

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That was a Mosin...not SKS. Maybe you knew that.


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Yep, I did, but thanks for the clarification just in case.

Comment was more about the 7.62x39 round and doing something similar with an SKS.


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[TNWNGR]

Hmm? The level of creativity and mechanical genuis machine work people will put into a cut down rifle or shotgun in some of the worst sh***holes in the world amazes me.

[BigK]

Pfffft.  Amateurs.

 

 

 

How the heck do you get enough leverage to work the bolt on that thing? LOL They tend to be hard enough to open as it is.