Illinois, anyone seen this?

[jaysouth]

Here is a quote off handgunlaw.us:

 

430 ILCS 66/40 (e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident: (1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law; (2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence, as evidenced by the possession of a concealed carry license or permit issued by his or her state of residence, if applicable; and (3) is not in possession of a license under this Act. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle in accordance with subsection  of Section 65 of this Act. (Source: P.A. 98-63, eff. 7-9-13.)

 

My take is that is says a TN HCP holder can have a concealed gun in their vehicle.

 

Anyone have any better insight into this?  

Edited July 24, 2015 by jaysouth

[felinesNfreedom]

You are correct. I travel to that state a few times a year to visit my wifes family. I called their state government and asked about it when the law was passed. The lady on the phone said that when I take it out of the car I need to have it locked in a case while it's outside of the car and on the way into the house :rofl:

[Randall53]

You are correct. I travel to that state a few times a year to visit my wifes family. I called their state government and asked about it when the law was passed. The lady on the phone said that when I take it out of the car I need to have it locked in a case while it's outside of the car and on the way into the house :rofl:

Yep...got to keep those evil guns locked up like a junkyard dog. It might break free of your holster and run down the street killing people..!!!!  The mindset of these people is insane.

[Will]

Yes starting last Summer this became law and is posted on IL. State Police Website. It ticked off a lot of IL. Residents at the time because they had to

wait another eight months before they could get their carry permits,but out of staters were able to carry in auto but not them. From day one IL was

Police only carry state and had no mercy on anyone and went out of their way to catch you. Still no out of state permit for TN and no way to carry

outside of car. It beats stopping in KY to unload and lock up gun,but will not spend a penny on gas or food until they are ok with our permit. 

[bersaguy]

I have a close life long friend that still lives up there and many years ago as we were growing up hunting and fishing as kids he said one day he would like to own a gun shop. When he came back from Nam in 73 that is exactly what he did. He bought a house for him and his new bride(childhood sweetheart) and built a building on his land beside his house big enough to meet Federal qualifications to be a Gun Shop and shortly before completing his building he received his FFL3 Firearms License. Since than he has had his gun shop and grand opening was in 1976 and he said he has been open since them but it has been HELL for him. The Illinois State Government has tried several times to close him down and failed because he meets and exceeds all Federal regulations and the Feds just tell the Illinois Government to take a hike as he complies with all of their requirements to remain in business. When the State would not even issue him a carry permit with an FFL3 license the feds issued him a Federal Carry Permit since he was a Veteran and wanted to be able to protect himself in his business. They even tried to arrest him for being armed outside his shop and the Feds stepped in and told Illinois to butt out. Since the SCOTUS handed down their rulings about Illinois Laws they have quit harassing him completely.

[EssOne]

I was up in Galena last October and, despite knowing about this section of law, I came in from the Iowa side with my pistol field stripped and padlocked in one hard side gun case and my mags and ammo padlocked in another hard side pistol case, both stored in a floor compartment in the rear of our Pilot.  You guys do what you want, but I don't trust Illinois authorities any further than I can throw Maryland and New Jersey both, so I played it really cautious............. I continued on out of Illinois like this and stopped and put everything back together when I got about three inches into Indiana. I'm going back this October and I intend to do it exactly the same way unless I can determine that Illinois has suddenly developed a heretofore unknown streak of fairness and tolerance towards lawful gun owners.

[DaveTN]

When the State would not even issue him a carry permit with an FFL3 license the feds issued him a Federal Carry Permit since he was a Veteran and wanted to be able to protect himself in his business.

Tell us about these “Federal permits”

[bersaguy]

I was up in Galena last October and, despite knowing about this section of law, I came in from the Iowa side with my pistol field stripped and padlocked in one hard side gun case and my mags and ammo padlocked in another hard side pistol case, both stored in a floor compartment in the rear of our Pilot.  You guys do what you want, but I don't trust Illinois authorities any further than I can throw Maryland and New Jersey both, so I played it really cautious............. I continued on out of Illinois like this and stopped and put everything back together when I got about three inches into Indiana. I'm going back this October and I intend to do it exactly the same way unless I can determine that Illinois has suddenly developed a heretofore unknown streak of fairness and tolerance towards lawful gun owners.

I think the Supreme Court decided that for the State Of Illinois so I really don't think you will have any issues but I would do what ever I felt comfortable doing...............jmho

[bersaguy]

Tell us about these “Federal permits”

I don't know that much about them but I will get in touch with my buddy and ask him about them. I think you must be an FFL dealer to get one but not sure but will find out all I can from him.................................. :up:

[Volphin]

...but will not spend a penny on gas or food until they are ok with our permit. 

I have to attend several trade shows a year in Chicago.  I always stay in MI, and take the train in.  I don't even eat there.  I DO leave a few things behind though.  :D

[Oh Shoot]

Here is a quote off handgunlaw.us:

 

430 ILCS 66/40 (e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident: (1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law; (2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence, as evidenced by the possession of a concealed carry license or permit issued by his or her state of residence, if applicable; and (3) is not in possession of a license under this Act. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle in accordance with subsection  of Section 65 of this Act. (Source: P.A. 98-63, eff. 7-9-13.)

 

My take is that is says a TN HCP holder can have a concealed gun in their vehicle.

 

Anyone have any better insight into this?  

 

Passed over a year ago.

 

Be sure to read section 65 though .. it specifies the places that locked vehicle is not sufficient, and a separate locked container is necessary,

 

 

I don't know that much about them but I will get in touch with my buddy and ask him about them. I think you must be an FFL dealer to get one but not sure but will find out all I can from him.................................. :up:

 

All horse pucky. The only thing approaching a "federal permit" is being an authorized federal agent or carrying under guise of LEOSA.

 

- OS

[EssOne]

I think the Supreme Court decided that for the State Of Illinois so I really don't think you will have any issues but I would do what ever I felt comfortable doing...............jmho

 

Like I said - I don't trust those people any further than I can throw Maryland and New Jersey put together. SCOTUS won't be there to assure reasonable application of the law, so I'll just deny them the opportunity to be difficult. I appreciate the thought, BG, I really do.

[DaveTN]

I'm going back this October and I intend to do it exactly the same way unless I can determine that Illinois has suddenly developed a heretofore unknown streak of fairness and tolerance towards lawful gun owners.

Non-Residents
No reciprocity: Out of state licenses not valid.
Non-Residents may apply for an Illinois
license. Must meet essentially the same
requirements as an Illinois applicant.

Non Residents are allowed to transport a
concealed firearm within their vehicle without
a permit, provided they have a valid out-ofstate
permit. If the vehicle is left unattended,
the firearm must either be in a locked
container or the vehicle must be locked

http://www.senategop.state.il.us/portals/0/concealed-carry/13%20concealed%20carry%20report.pdf
http://gunssavelives.net/firearm-carry/illinois-state-police-post-official-faq-for-upcoming-concealed-carry-laws/
http://www.royandcompany.com/are-out-of-state-concealed-carry-permit-holders-granted-reciprocity-in-illinois/
 

Like I said - I don't trust those people any further than I can throw Maryland and New Jersey put together. SCOTUS won't be there to assure reasonable application of the law, so I'll just deny them the opportunity to be difficult. I appreciate the thought, BG, I really do.

The SCOTUS didn’t rule on carry in Illinois.(Except McDonald on the Chicago gun ban; not about carry) The 7th Federal District said a total carry ban was a violation; so they got carry. After that the Illinois Supreme Court said in a case that they felt anything other than reasonable restrictions on carrying off ones property was a violation; but that wasn’t the question they were addressing at the time. The people and politicians of Illinois (Republicans and Democrats alike) shut down the Chicago machine and the Governor on this issue, and that’s no small feat. They even elected a new Republican Governor. Illinois could easily become the next Constitutional Carry state.

[jaysouth]

Dave. 

 

Thanks for the links.  I have printed off all three and will highlight pertinent parts and carry them in my vehicle when passing through ILL

[EssOne]

Thanks for the information. I'll check it again just before I leave.

[bersaguy]

I don't know that much about them but I will get in touch with my buddy and ask him about them. I think you must be an FFL dealer to get one but not sure but will find out all I can from him.................................. :up:

ok, Just spoke with my friend up in Illinois that has the FFL3 license and I was wrong about the Federal License. He was advised by someone in the FFL Division back when he first received his license to get in touch with the Will County Sheriff and see about getting a swore Will County Sheriff's Deputy Commission that would authorize him to carry. He did so and the Sheriff did in fact issue it for him and swore him in as a Deputy Sheriff of Will County and because over the past 40 years there has only been 6 elections with 4 sheriff's getting re-elected. Every time a new Sheriff is elected they swear him in again.

 

I also think it does not hurt that about 90% of the Will County Sheriff's office and deputy's do business at his store and all get a Law Enforcement Discount and all get free range time. I guess it's not what you know but who you know in his case.

 

In 1980 he purchased the home next to his and had it torn down and added a new indoor shooting range which I was not aware till I just spoke with him along with he also has to professional gunsmiths on site during store hours. Last time I spoke with him he didn't mention any of the new stuff. Hope that explains why he can carry. He actually has a badge and ID he can hooked on his belt when ever he open carries which he only does while in his store most of the time..................... :up: :up:

[R_Bert]

I (sort of) live in Chicadishu, and mostly work here.

 

Best I can tell, an out of state permit isn't worth crap (as confirmed by several IL firearms course instructors & ILSRA).   

 

And... an out-of-state non-resident *cannot* apply for IL permits (with the exception of 3-4 states, TN NOT included). A. Gura / SAF has a lawsuit filed on that since Nov 2014.

 

My advice.... stay the **** out of IL.   

 

B.

Edited July 25, 2015 by R_Bert

[shotgunshooter]

Oh and by the way unless you are a resident from a state that borders Illinois you can't buy ammo there. They also did get rid of the waiting period for long guns so you can take possession of whatever gun you buy that day (not sure if it previously applied state residents).

[crossfire]

Oh and by the way unless you are a resident from a state that borders Illinois you can't buy ammo there.

When did they start that?

[shotgunshooter]

Around July 9 or 10. It is a real PITA when I go up there and try to grab some ammo at Wallyworld. I have no clue why someone would live in IL, NY, or CA. I'm sure I'm forgetting another socialist utopia. I'll get a picture of the sign when I go up later this week.

[EssOne]

 

..........................................Best I can tell, an out of state permit isn't worth crap (as confirmed by several IL firearms course instructors & ILSRA).................................................   

 

 

My advice.... stay the **** out of IL.   

 

B.

 

This is why I am playing it so cautious when I have to go to Illinois.

[300winmag]

From what I understand, you can have a loaded pistol in your car in Illinois if you are from out of state and have a handgun carry permit.  You just can't carry it loaded in public outside your vehicle.  You can have it loaded in your hotel room.  That has been the law there for I believe around a year.  Chicago is covered by this new law. 

 

That is not ideal but it is better than New York where you pretty much can't bring a handgun as a non resident unless you are going there for an NRA sanctioned match.

 

I wouldn't hesitate bringing a handgun to Illinois as far as having it loaded in the car and hotel room.

Edited July 26, 2015 by 300winmag

[Oh Shoot]

...  You can have it loaded in your hotel room.  That has been the law there for I believe around a year.  Chicago is covered by this new law. 

 

I know of nowhere in IL law where this is stated?

 

- OS

[crossfire]

 You can have it loaded in your hotel room.  That has been the law there for I believe around a year.  Chicago is covered by this new law. 

 

 

I wouldn't hesitate bringing a handgun to Illinois as far as having it loaded in the car and hotel room.

Can you please post where you saw this? I go to Illinois to visit friends and have never heard of this.

[teecro]

I know of nowhere in IL law where this is stated?

 

- OS

http://www.isp.state.il.us/docs/ptfire.pdf   page 3