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Seems like rat, chicken, black, king, etc. are one in the same, or at least very similar, correct?

 

Rat, chicken, king all very similar. All same down through Subfamily and Tribe.

 

"Black snake" is more of a colloquial term, most in N. America more properly referred to as one kind of racer or other, or the black rat snake.

 

- OS

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I live in a very quite and deeply rural HOA with limited residents so it has very little traffic and I've found these guys to be quite bold in that they will sun themselves in the street and don't make much effort if any to get out of the road even when you turn around in your UTV and go check them out.... 

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Colubrids (excepting a couple that don't live in this part of the world) can be quite tame and cuddly once you handle 'em a bit.
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Pine snake.... Pituophis melanoleucus.  They can get rather large. 6 or 7 feet, if they live long enough.

Have had more than a couple of 'em show up around here, over the years.

Won't hurt you, but might make you hurt yourself.

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Pine snake.... Pituophis melanoleucus.  They can get rather large. 6 or 7 feet, if they live long enough.

Have had more than a couple of 'em show up around here, over the years.

Won't hurt you, but might make you hurt yourself.

 

Had one for about a year myself as a kid. She would hiss and bite when I first got her, but settled down quickly.

 

Ask me how I know it was a "she". ;)

 

- OS

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Oh Shoot did you knowingly have sex with that snake, be careful in how you answer this question sir as you under or near the water board, and that snake is a distant relative to another snake in a blue dress,, or coat and tie not sure which!! :)
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I just killed one a couple weeks ago in the hen house......they'll eat eggs like candy.  Scared the h**l outta me when i opened the door.......lol

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Ask me how I know it was a "she". ;)

 

- OS

 

 

 

 

The hissing and biting when it saw you? :taunt:

 

It's either that or the vent scale... :shrug:
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I saw a snake like that one time.....I was gonna kill it with a hoe, but the handle wasn't long enough. :ugh: :rofl:

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Oh Shoot did you knowingly have sex with that snake, be careful in how you answer this question sir as you under or near the water board, and that snake is a distant relative to another snake in a blue dress,, or coat and tie not sure which!! :)

 
Must admit I didn't expect that question, and don't understand the rest of it, but I'm certain the answer is no. :)
 

The hissing and biting when it saw you? :taunt:

 
Excellent logical deduction! ;)
 

It's either that or the vent scale... :shrug:


Couldn't be sure of that. But whopper eggs a month or two after I captured it was a dead giveaway -- wasn't long before I had like 8 or 10 snakes instead of one!

Was able to give away the babies to a more involved herp nut in the area though. I turned Mrs. Piney back into wild in same month a year later near where I had caught her in the first place. She was a big ass snake, like over 6 feet, and thick. Couple mice or so per week, and I'm sure she could have eaten much more. She'd eat eggs too, but like a dog would let 'em sit until she figgered she wasn't getting something she liked better, which was a live mouse. :)

Also, if it was against the law way back then to have wildlife, lots of folks in McMinn County paid no attention to it. Folks had coons, possums, foxes, owls, all kinds of stuff. 'Course, those were the days of rifles and shotguns in rack behind the seat in high school parking lots too.

- OS

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Without snakes we would be knee deep in small rodents like mice, rats, shrews, etc in about a year. Olds, foxes, and coyotes would never be able to keep up!
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Yep and allathat beneficial stuff. But it's still a Hoversnake to me..............I get surprised by one I go into my famous bird imitation.....and I can hover like a summagun too!!

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I want to know how many times you had to sit it up on the fence to make it pose like that! And why?!

I'm impressed!  Kinda... :ugh:

As I was attempting to move it from my yard, it climbed the fence and posed for several pictures. It stayed right there on the fence for a good 5 minutes. 

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