Parts kits and people who buy them

[ironsniper1]

Hey all so me and a friend at work were discussing the topic of firearms parts kits and I brought up the following question,

What percentage of people who buy parts kits turn them semi auto and how many turn them back into full auto even know it's illegal?

He said it was probably 50/50 but what do yall think? I think 50/50 is about right and the 50% who make them full auto are stupid


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[Omega]

Hey all so me and a friend at work were discussing the topic of firearms parts kits and I brought up the following question,

What percentage of people who buy parts kits turn them semi auto and how many turn them back into full auto even know it's illegal?

He said it was probably 50/50 but what do yall think? I think 50/50 is about right and the 50% who make them full auto are stupid


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Count me in the number that keeps his semi.  With rounds being so scarce and expensive, why would I want to make an auto?  Besides, even when I didn't have to pay for it, I can count on my fingers the amount of times I went full auto (in an AR) in 21 years and never in combat.

[TNWNGR]

I'm betting that most people buying parts kits just rat hole them somewhere for another day. Of those who do complete them I suspect the overwelming majority are semi auto only.

[gjohnsoniv]

Yeah I keep mine semi auto. Now would it be easy for someone who didn't know what they were doing to accidentally miss something and be in violation of a law. On the same note though, if you're building from a parts kit, you should already have a grounding in what the laws are. If you don't know those you shouldn't be building.

[Monkeyman2500]

I think your way off on that. Most are for cheep builds. Use what you need and the rest goes in spare parts box. I would bet the amount used to make illegal parts is more like .5 to 1%.

[gjohnsoniv]

I think your way off on that. Most are for cheep builds. Use what you need and the rest goes in spare parts box. I would bet the amount used to make illegal parts is more like .5 to 1%.

You might think they'll start out as cheap but they don't end up that way. I know I spent just as much building my Uzi as it would have cost to buy one.

[MacGyver]

With AR parts kits?

 

While the knowledge might be readily available, most people can't put in a trigger spring the right way the first time.  They're not going to make the leap to drilling the extra holes in receivers, milling out material, sourcing the needed parts and pulling that all off successfully.

 

The folks who are going to break the law and risk it on something like that are few and far between - at least in legitimate gun ownership circles. 

 

I'd say for 100 parts kits sold, at least 99 end up being used for their intended purpose - whether a cheap build or full race dragon,

[monkeylizard]

^^^^^^

Truth!

[seez52]

Some years ago a guy in Mt Juliet did the full auto thing on several kits. He was free and clear for a while. Eventually he got sideways with some acquaintances and they squeeled on him. He was convicted and spent time in the big house.

I wouldn't even consider the FA route. Just not worth it.

[Caster]

Depends on the parts kit.  Not many AK parts kits were bought with illegal intentions.  Even fewer AR parts kits.  

 

Now, number of people either ferreting the kit away or building it to an illegal machine gun for kits such as a STEN, Suomi, PPSH, etc.  are probably HIGHER than 50%.  Very simplistic designed sub guns are [I'm guessing] the greatest in frequency.  

 

What's sad is, the people who tuck them away for SHTF are crazy if they think they'll just be able to whip it together unless they are tooled up with generator power.  Even sadder are the chumps who build them and tuck them away and hide them for SHTF and have NO clue or training for properly deploying them.  In any scenario I can think of that could ACTUALLY happen; I wouldn't trade my semiauto AR for ANY machine gun ever made.  I've shot several full auto's including some very easy to manage subguns.  They're all junk to me.  

Full auto weapons need trained soldiers [<-- see that word, it's plural!] for maximum effectiveness.  For the rest of us, concentrating on hitting the target with each shot is MUCH more efficient.  

I've considered many times investing in a full auto weapon of some sort.  For me, it's only fun in thought and I can get that from a youtube video.  It takes a long time to load all that ammo!  

Edited July 9, 2015 by Caster

[nightrunner]

Depends on the parts kit. Not many AK parts kits were bought with illegal intentions. Even fewer AR parts kits.

Now, number of people either ferreting the kit away or building it to an illegal machine gun for kits such as a STEN, Suomi, PPSH, etc. are probably HIGHER than 50%. Very simplistic designed sub guns are [I'm guessing] the greatest in frequency.

What's sad is, the people who tuck them away for SHTF are crazy if they think they'll just be able to whip it together unless they are tooled up with generator power. Even sadder are the chumps who build them and tuck them away and hide them for SHTF and have NO clue or training for properly deploying them. In any scenario I can think of that could ACTUALLY happen; I wouldn't trade my semiauto AR for ANY machine gun ever made. I've shot several full auto's including some very easy to manage subguns. They're all junk to me.
Full auto weapons need trained soldiers [<-- see that word, it's plural!] for maximum effectiveness. For the rest of us, concentrating on hitting the target with each shot is MUCH more efficient.
I've considered many times investing in a full auto weapon of some sort. For me, it's only fun in thought and I can get that from a youtube video. It takes a long time to load all that ammo!

Agreed.

I'm not military and had never shot a MG, I rented both a Kriss and a full auto 556 AK sbr, I no longer have a desire for them. I can do all I would need with a good semi auto and some trigger discipline. I'm not a trained soldier nor do I plan on going Rambo when SHTF.

[RED333]

Full auto, not me, no way, I like my freedom.

There is a reason 3 shot full auto was developed.

[DWARREN123]

I would believe that most would be semi-auto. Auto is too much trouble especially if caught and someone will always tell.

[Grunt67]

Count me in the number that keeps his semi.  With rounds being so scarce and expensive, why would I want to make an auto?  Besides, even when I didn't have to pay for it, I can count on my fingers the amount of times I went full auto (in an AR) in 21 years and never in combat.

 

 Same here. Seldom find a need for full auto in combat. Great in the movies tho.

[Caster]

There is a time and place for it, it just usually goes with movement. Make the other guy find a place to hide while we move to a better place.

You know, kinda like this one...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RjlDRTemjzQ