Uber bans guns

[94user]

I've never so much as thought about using thier services but I know now I won't ever. Are any commercial taxi's posted ?

 

 

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/20/uber-banning-riders-drivers-from-carrying-guns/?intcmp=latestnews

[10-Ring]

I think they just put a target on all of their drivers.

[Monkeyman2500]

Let me get this straight. A driver for they're company who is legally carrying a firearm saves a bunch of people from a nut bag trying to kill people and this is the response. Genius!

[94user]

Let me get this straight. A driver for they're company who is legally carrying a firearm saves a bunch of people from a nut bag trying to kill people and this is the response. Genius!

More proof that anti gun folks don't think things through.

[DMark]

Let me get this straight. A driver for they're company who is legally carrying a firearm saves a bunch of people from a nut bag trying to kill people and this is the response. Genius!

 

.... San Francisco-based Uber......  :screwy:

[xjsnake]

So now if I'm a carjacker, I can use a throwaway phone on starbucks's wifi and order an unarmed car to jack and they will come to me?

 

Genius!

[Erik88]

So they think they can prevent their drivers from carrying a gun in their personally owned vehicles? 

 

That's cute.

[gjohnsoniv]

What Eric said. Also, isn't Uber strictly a credit card based business? Outside of taking the car, what is there to steal?

[Erik88]

What Eric said. Also, isn't Uber strictly a credit card based business? Outside of taking the car, what is there to steal?

 

Yes and it's not paid in person. Everything is paid ahead of time from the riders account.

 

But I doubt most criminals knows this....

[BigK]

Let me get this straight. A driver for they're company who is legally carrying a firearm saves a bunch of people from a nut bag trying to kill people and this is the response. Genius!

 

^^THIS^^

 

See what happens...even when a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun, preventing a mass shooting...somebody, Uber in this case, still jump to the conclusion that the good guy needs to be the one that is disarmed.

[K191145]

Let me get this straight. A driver for they're company who is legally carrying a firearm saves a bunch of people from a nut bag trying to kill people and this is the response. Genius!

 

Uber-idiocy.

 

Maybe i'm getting mean and spitefull in my old age but i'm getting really really sick and tired of all these pretentious, sanctimonious, self-rightous, narcissistic, socialist, freedom hating, Constitution destroying, progressive liberal commies, (did I leave anything out?), trying to force their idiotic, illogical, fantacy utopian philosophy down our throats every minute of every day but I would love to see this Uber company go bankrupt some day. I will laugh that day, they deserve it.

[NextExit]

 

In April, an Uber driver with a concealed-carry permit shot a 22-year-old man who had opened fire on a group of pedestrians in Chicago. Court records say the man was shooting at pedestrians who were walking in front of the Uber driver's vehicle, and the driver shot the gunman. The driver wasn't charged, as prosecutors said he acted in defense of himself and others.

I think the real story here is the fact that this man was able to obtain a CCP in CHICAGO and wasn't charged! :stunned: (Think he'll be praised by Mayor Rahm Emanuel? :rolleyes:  )

And how does Uber plan to enforce this policy? Install a metal detector in the car? Is the driver supposed to be frisked by the passenger? :squint:

[M60A3]

They claim their drivers are not employees, but contractors.

 

Don't think you can tell a contractor what he/she can legally carry.

[Oh Shoot]

They claim their drivers are not employees, but contractors.

 

Don't think you can tell a contractor what he/she can legally carry.

 

Ask FedEx Ground contractors about the degree of control the company can exert.

 

- OS

[tnhawk]

I haven't noticed any cars with proper signs posted on the doors.  Nor does their website give any notice to their customers or employees.

Edited June 20, 2015 by tnhawk

[Pete123]

What Eric said. Also, isn't Uber strictly a credit card based business? Outside of taking the car, what is there to steal?

 

I have a friend that was shot through the chest with a 9mm in a car jacking - the car itself has value.

[Pete123]

What bothers me most in all of this is that there isn't any solid evidence that I have been able to find that shows that gun control violence and crime.

 

I look at all the money spent by our side and their side and shake my head.

 

A much smarter approach would be to find common ground on ways to reduce violence and partner in those areas.  

 

The NRA had a class with a large booklet at the Nashville show and there was nothing in there that I saw related to guns.  It was all about how to protect your children and yourself.  

[Monkeyman2500]

What bothers me most in all of this is that there isn't any solid evidence that I have been able to find that shows that gun control violence and crime.

I look at all the money spent by our side and their side and shake my head.

A much smarter approach would be to find common ground on ways to reduce violence and partner in those areas.

The NRA had a class with a large booklet at the Nashville show and there was nothing in there that I saw related to guns. It was all about how to protect your children and yourself.

I think with pro gun advocates the thought is there is little that can be done to reduce violence except to protect oneself. The criminal mindset is a result of society, individuals surroundings, and upbringing. It's hard to say how anyone not directly related to the criminal in some way can have an effect on their lives. At this point any increase in gun laws will probably have little effect on the people intent on committing a crime. A focus on education and economy probably has a much better chance of improving things.

[Hammer285]

So now if I'm a carjacker, I can use a throwaway phone on starbucks's wifi and order an unarmed car to jack and they will come to me?

Genius!

Don't forget a free non-traceable email account used to create your free non-traceable apple account to download the app.

[A.J. Holst]

Don't think for a minute this has anything to do with safety, protection or even an anti-gun agenda.

Liability...any kind of lawsuit from driver, passenger or car jacker...Uber gets named in the suit.

Which is going to happen regardless of company policy.

[Lumber_Jack]

Well this just tells me if I take an Uber I'll be the only one with a gun

[NextExit]

What this tells me is that I should start my own taxi service.  I'll have my NRA license plate, advertisements on the roof for gun shops and the "coexist" sticker (as seen on this forum) on the rear bumper. I'll have a sign on the dash that says "Forms of payment accepted: cash, credit, ammo" :D  Wonder how many tourists I'll get?

[btq96r]

Part of me thinks there are insurance and liability costs factoring into this decision.

 

 

They claim their drivers are not employees, but contractors.

 

Don't think you can tell a contractor what he/she can legally carry.

 

You can set it as a condition of the contract, and you better believe Uber is giving these drivers a "sign it or don't take the work" type of deal.  Unless OSHA safety concerns are involved, whoever has leverage on the contract is going to get what they want.

[K191145]

Ask FedEx Ground contractors about the degree of control the company can exert.

 

- OS

 

They can terminate their contract but can't have them charged with a crime. Any changes in rules by a company should void a current contract and a new one or agreement to the new rules should have to be signed by the contractor. Making new rules is changing a contract that has to be agreed upon by both parties. If the contractor doesn't agree with the new contract rules they should be able to opt out without civil repercussions.

[Oh Shoot]

They can terminate their contract but can't have them charged with a crime. Any changes in rules by a company should void a current contract and a new one or agreement to the new rules should have to be signed by the contractor. Making new rules is changing a contract that has to be agreed upon by both parties. If the contractor doesn't agree with the new contract rules they should be able to opt out without civil repercussions.

 

FedEx Ground contracts are yearly, and whatever they put in the new one, you either sign or you're out. Except for OTR rigs, your investment in trucks becomes near worthless too, as there's really not another market for them but FedEx contractors themselves, and of course they go for lowball amounts once you're stuck having to sell them.

 

In short, once you've invested there, no formal civil repercussions necessary to ruin your life if you don't go along to get along. ;)

 

- OS