New Bullet Design from Hornady

[musicman]

http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=786

Looks kinda' like a new take on the EFMJ design principle to me. (IE: non-hollowpoint, but still made to expand) What do you guys think? Has anyone here seen/tried this stuff yet?

[Guest pjblurton]

yeah, it looked pretty cool. I saw a piece on them on Guns and Ammo TV and then an article in this months G&A Mag.

I shot Hornady an email and they said that it was a 2009 product and was not on the shelves yet.

[Reservoir Dog]

Looks interesting. Kind of like the CorBon Pow'R Ball ammo, except without a ball.

[Guest sling]

Wtf makes a SD round and not make .45 part of the line up!

Looks like they took an XTP and put plastic in it. Meh

Looks like they're losing money and they caught on with the powRball

Edited November 10, 2008 by sling

[cadillacdude1975]

or the .40? i guess those two rounds will be included down the road as tests are run on each different caliber to see how it reacts.

[Guest Mugster]

A lead tipped semi jacketed flat point probably works better. I bet I could order some XTP bullets and melt plastic in a pot and pour it in the hole...

[Guest sling]

A lead tipped semi jacketed flat point probably works better. I bet I could order some XTP bullets and melt plastic in a pot and pour it in the hole...

But could you control the 'hardness depending on caliber?"

[Guest Mugster]

But could you control the 'hardness depending on caliber?"

Oh yeah, you just add a grain of viagra to the melting pot...

[bvarnell]

At $12 a pill, you wouldn't want to use too many. :p:p

[Guest tadams]

They are now available for sale. Midway and Cheaper Than Dirt have them stocked and ready to go.

After doing some more reading (see this post and links within: Hornady Critical Defense) I realize that they're really starting with these calibers, as the majority of concealed carry gun owners use these calibers. If it wins over in sales the larger .40 or .45 may become an option. It's a smart business decision, if you ask me. Plus, part of the idea behind this is to give the smaller caliber the expansion characteristics of what the larger caliber already does. Filling in the hollowpoint with the rubber is a great idea in any caliber, but we all know that, say, a hollow point Golden Sabre .45 (or similar) does just fine in the same type testing.

[molonlabetn]

Nothing wrong with having another option... just a new tool in the toolbox. Personally though, I don't expect to put stock in any projectile more 'fancy' than a regular Gold-Dot until somebody develops a viable 'brain-seeking' guided bullet.

A better application for this would be in heavy, slow JHPs which tend to have expansion issues moreso than the light, fast projectiles which have more to lose with regard to effective penetration when they do expand.

[Guest sling]

They are now available for sale. Midway and Cheaper Than Dirt have them stocked and ready to go.

After doing some more reading (see this post and links within: Hornady Critical Defense) I realize that they're really starting with these calibers, as the majority of concealed carry gun owners use these calibers. If it wins over in sales the larger .40 or .45 may become an option. It's a smart business decision, if you ask me. Plus, part of the idea behind this is to give the smaller caliber the expansion characteristics of what the larger caliber already does. Filling in the hollowpoint with the rubber is a great idea in any caliber, but we all know that, say, a hollow point Golden Sabre .45 (or similar) does just fine in the same type testing.

Midway should have them by the 15th.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=388966

I dont plan on carrying the thing anytime soon. Ballistic gel tests dont do it for me.

Give me .45 ball for winter and .45 tactical bonded for the rest.

Edited December 3, 2008 by sling

[Guest tadams]

Midway should have them by the 15th.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=388966

I dont plan on carrying the thing anytime soon. Ballistic gel tests dont do it for me.

Give me .45 ball for winter and .45 tactical bonded for the rest.

Well, they HAD the 9mm at the time I wrote that yesterday;that and the 380. Did you watch the video? The whole point is that ballistic gell tests don't do it for them either... except to demonstrate the cavitation and round spread, which we could all agree on. (Couldn't we?)

Edited December 3, 2008 by tadams
Added .380 Midway link

[Guest sling]

Well, they HAD the 9mm at the time I wrote that yesterday;that and the 380. Did you watch the video? The whole point is that ballistic gell tests don't do it for them either... except to demonstrate the cavitation and round spread, which we could all agree on. (Couldn't we?)

Holy smokes, really?

I guess they caught on quick. I'm sure there will be some bozo that buys them and loads em but without trying them....

Then we hear some sad story of our hero having to use the round in a SD situation and that it went horribly wrong... the cartridge fires but the heat somehow melts the plastic and gums up the barrel... and then explodes in the mans face. Then Hornady makes a recall.

I couldnt imagine what would happen if they were fed through a glock.

*note for the ones with no sense of humor* The above is a joke.

Edited December 3, 2008 by sling

[Guest tadams]

They'll be under the Christmas tree this year, with a little note attached, saying "Don't shoot your eye out, Ralphie" LMAO