CMP to get 1911s?

[hipower]

I'm still looking for those m1 carbines from Korea.

You and me both, brother!

[Will]

Well if previous CMP (DCM) used to ship them to your home for $17.50  it may run $20-$25 now. DCM pre 1968 pulled the nice ones out of Army stock and you

were allowed one in a lifetime,i still run across them now and then in box with paperwork. They only bring about half of one that was not run through rebuild.

I talked with one of the Managers at CMP about 12 years ago and the take everything offered to them and have a warehouse full of Thompsons,M14's The

1911's with almost no chance of ever selling to public,but they will not let then get chopped. Most or all of the Carbines@Garands have been returned to

CMP with not many out there. 

[whiterx]

It passed!!

 

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/11/foghorn/breaking-obamau-s-army-1911s/

 

Now I'm wondering what their prices are going to be. 

[Oh Shoot]

It passed!!

 

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/11/foghorn/breaking-obamau-s-army-1911s/

 

Now I'm wondering what their prices are going to be. 

 

I'm wondering if the Secretary of Defense the Army "will" actually release any of them as long as there is a Dem administration, since the bill gives him the "may" option. Meaning, I imagine the actual decision is still in reality up to BHO. And/or Hillary Clinton.

 

- OS

Edited December 4, 2015 by Oh Shoot

[CommsNBombs]

It passed!!

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/11/foghorn/breaking-obamau-s-army-1911s/

Now I'm wondering what their prices are going to be.

I have a feeling it'll be north of a grand...

Here is hoping theyre around 500 or lower, not gonna happen though.

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[Oh Shoot]

Well if previous CMP (DCM) used to ship them to your home for $17.50  it may run $20-$25 now. DCM pre ...

 

If these are indeed ever released, not sure at all they'll be shipped to your home. The way it's worded, with the background check and all, seems like would have to be transferred through FFL?

 

- OS

Edited November 27, 2015 by Oh Shoot

[Dolomite_supafly]

When I was in Germany I was in a unit that did railway security. We rode trains for a few days to a few months at a time. And all the doors and windows of the cars we rode in had a funky square nut that took a special key. Well it turned out that if you put the muzzle of your 1911 over that square nut and applied some side pressure to the gun the rifling would engage the "Zu" nut.

As you can imagine decades of doing this with the same, unit issued guns, wasn't very good for the guns. Every 1911 in the units arms room had either severly damaged or completely missing the rifling the last 1/2" of the bore. It got to a point that if you were issued a 1911 for a rail mission that one of the checks was for rifling because if the 1911 you were issued didn't have any you could not open anything.

When we started transitioning to Berettas we were pissed because we could no longer, easily open the things we needed to open. But shortly after that our TO&E changed. It was because the other units in the battalion were bitching that our unit was making extra TDY money and they weren't.

Yes there were "Zu" keys but over time they were lost or broke and so only the supervisor had them. And if he was sleeping you did not wake him up.

[musicman]

When I was in Germany I was in a unit that did railway security. We rode trains for a few days to a few months at a time. And all the doors and windows of the cars we rode in had a funky square nut that took a special key. Well it turned out that if you put the muzzle of your 1911 over that square nut and applied some side pressure to the gun the rifling would engage the "Zu" nut.

As you can imagine decades of doing this with the same, unit issued guns, wasn't very good for the guns. Every 1911 in the units arms room had either severly damaged or completely missing the rifling the last 1/2" of the bore. It got to a point that if you were issued a 1911 for a rail mission that one of the checks was for rifling because if the 1911 you were issued didn't have any you could not open anything.

When we started transitioning to Berettas we were pissed because we could no longer, easily open the things we needed to open. But shortly after that our TO&E changed. It was because the other units in the battalion were bitching that our unit was making extra TDY money and they weren't.

Yes there were "Zu" keys but over time they were lost or broke and so only the supervisor had them. And if he was sleeping you did not wake him up.

That's a trip! I love these stories. :-) But what I reall want to know... how many of those doors got shot?! :-o

[Dolomite_supafly]

That's a trip! I love these stories. :-) But what I reall want to know... how many of those doors got shot?! :-o

 

No doors got shot but we definitely destroyed a bunch of 1911 barrels.

 

Our "trips" would sometimes have to pass through "neutral" countries and because of that the guard cars had hidden compartments. We would get a phone call on our MRT (mobile radio telephone) telling us to stow the weapons. We would remove various panels to find weapons racks to store our weapons because we were not allowed to enter those countries.

 

Not me but here is a picture of the guard car with a soldier. I was a member of the 570th MP unit and by the time I was in the unit the guard cars would a bit more low profile.

 

Funny people don't know this but we were known as a "Railborne" unit. There was talk of having an additional skill identifier for those assigned and trained to do rail missions. And with there being "field" MPs and "garrison" MPs having different missions there was also talk of a MOS, job classification, specific to those who guard classified shipments.

 

In the year and a half I was part of that unit I seen places I would have never seen. We travelled all over Europe and seen some amazing stuff. We would also guard cargo ships, nothing more enjoyable than taking a two week cruise up the river Rhine and having your meals catered by the staff of the ship an getting paid $100 a day on top of your $900 a month base pay. Or nothing sucked more as we escorted a over the road shipment from southern Germany to and not getting paid because we had a few cases of MRE's. Five of us lived in a CUCV, military Blazer, for over 10 days and the only stop we made was to refuel from one of our tanker trucks in with the convoy.

 

One constant stop was the Bergen Belsen concentration camp. Our cars were on the same rails that brought the Jews some 50 years earlier. And although I do not believe in ghosts there were a lot of odd things that happened ONLY while we were in Bergen Belsen. We had what we called "ghost cars" that would randomly start moving so you had to be careful not to walk on the rails as they were dead quiet but also deadly. Had one member of our unit die when he was pinned between a stationary car and one doing and estimate 20 MPH. He got caught chest height by the bumpers. which are about 2' in diameter, and it popped him like a balloon. It was also very annoying when those ghost cars would slam into our car at full speed. It would literally throw you out of your bunk or toss your plate of food in your lap before you knew it.

 

I was, literally, home only 6 months the three years I was in Germany. And those were broken up into 3-5 days home at a time. Enough time to wash your clothes, buy more supplies and get drunk before heading back out. This was during the mid 90's drawdown so we were BUSY. We would get alerted and had four hours to make it into the unit. We were then put on 24+ hour lock down with zero outside contact before getting the mission brief. Then we would load into an unmarked VW van with curtains to drive to the departure location. We never really knew what we were carrying or how long the trip would be or where we were going. We would get a call ever 24 hours on the MRT to get status updates. When we were within 24 hours of our destination we would get a call notifying us were we area and what we would doing. Then we would hop on commercial trains and head back home.

 

Best time in the military was spent in Germany even though I was gone a lot.

[willis68]

I am definitely in if this happens,

[graycrait]

Dolomite,  that was a great story.  The last one I carried in the mid 80's had to be wrapped in an oily rag or else it would turn orange due to humidity and it rattled like a castanet.  If you could choose your own or else could get them at pre-ban Norinco 1911 prices...  

[R1100R]

Everyone I was issued was a POS. When I flew MEDEVAC I was issued a
S&W model 10 and it was a great pistol.I even purchased one a few years ago
because I had such fond memories of one.

[raildog]

Everyone I was issued was a POS. When I flew MEDEVAC I was issued a
S&W model 10 and it was a great pistol.I even purchased one a few years ago
because I had such fond memories of one.

Thats the good thing about the 1911 and cmp there all kinds of replacement parts for the thing and cmp will take the crap one and refurbish them

[Grayfox54]

Got my monthly CMP update in e-mail yesterday. One short mention of the 1911s.

 

 

An update on the 1911's

The NDAA 2016 has passed.  We have no further information concerning the status of the 1911s.  We will update our customers as we know more.  Please do not email or call with questions regarding the 1911s.  Our systems are overloaded.

 

 

The law may have passed but, CMP still doesn't know Jack. It appears that nobody in government is talking to them yet. So the whole matter is still up in the air. 

 

[monkeylizard]

AIUI, the Army has to do some work on their side first to get them ready for transfer to the CMP. I'll be surprised if we see any of them before summer.

[MP5_Rizzo]

Not to be the pessimist but I will be surprised if we see them in 2016.

[DaveTN]

Not to be the pessimist but I will be surprised if we see them in 2016.

They approved the act, but I will be shocked (and it takes a lot to shock me) to see the Obama administration release 100K handguns to the streets. I don’t think he has realized it yet, and he won’t let it happen when he does.

[Oh Shoot]

They approved the act, but I will be shocked (and it takes a lot to shock me) to see the Obama administration release 100K handguns to the streets. I don’t think he has realized it yet, and he won’t let it happen when he does.

 
Oh, I'd say he well knew the wording in the bill before he ever signed it. And that Eric Fanning already has the word to just do nothing. I imagine Hillary would do the same.
 
I agree that I'd be shocked if an anti-gun zealot like BHO (or Hillary) allowed the Fed to be responsible for putting more handguns out there.
 
I am a bit surprised the ammo exemption from the Toxic Control Act got through though, what with the EPA being his baby and all. I do wonder if anything "slipped" by, it would be that one?
 
- OS

Edited December 5, 2015 by Oh Shoot

[Moped]

When my battalion was activated for Desert Storm, the Armorers at Ft. Bragg, took all our 1911s and rebuilt them.  They were in great shape when we went to the great sandbox!

[Wingshooter]

Oh, I'd say he well knew the wording in the bill before he ever signed it. And that Eric Fanning already has the word to just do nothing. I imagine Hillary would do the same.
 
I agree that I'd be shocked if an anti-gun zealot like BHO (or Hillary) allowed the Fed to be responsible for putting more handguns out there.
 
I am a bit surprised the ammo exemption from the Toxic Control Act got through though, what with the EPA being his baby and all. I do wonder if anything "slipped" by, it would be that one?
 
- OS

I agree on one hand, but on the other they may see an opportunity. They don't really care about how many guns are out there in the short term. They just want to pass legislation. They might secretly WANT more guns out there in hopes that they can point a finger at the GOP house/senate that passed the legislation to make the 1911s available. They might be hopeful that allowing these 1911s to "hit the streets" will lead to the next crisis of opportunity :shrug:

[Oh Shoot]

I agree on one hand, but on the other they may see an opportunity. They don't really care about how many guns are out there in the short term. They just want to pass legislation. They might secretly WANT more guns out there in hopes that they can point a finger at the GOP house/senate that passed the legislation to make the 1911s available. They might be hopeful that allowing these 1911s to "hit the streets" will lead to the next crisis of opportunity :shrug:

 

Bill passed with huge Dem majority too, so I don't see much political propaganda ammo there.

 

Senate vote : 91-3

House vote: 370-58 (dem was 134-49)

 

- OS

Edited December 5, 2015 by Oh Shoot