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[Guest 44M]

Though there are a lot of governments that claim communism they are not necessarily purely so per definition. The ideas of communism that are written out may sound desirable by some but simply do not work.

I guess you explained it better than I did, I`m not saying communism is better or anything, just trying to explain that communism never actually egzisted, except in the books, everything else were dictatorships wich were just named after "comunism" thats all. How can anyone be against the idea that every person has everything they need is a mistery to me tho... democracy is not fair, comunism is fair, in comunism everyone is equal and in democracy majority prevails, wich is not neccessery fair... these are all theories and not worth arguing about it, but civilized conversation is always welcome...

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[Smith]

I guess you explained it better than I did, I`m not saying communism is better or anything, just trying to explain that communism never actually egzisted, except in the books, everything else were dictatorships wich were just named after "comunism" thats all. How can anyone be against the idea that every person has everything they need is a mistery to me tho... democracy is not fair, comunism is fair, in comunism everyone is equal and in democracy majority prevails, wich is not neccessery fair... these are all theories and not worth arguing about it, but civilized conversation is always welcome...

Db

Depends on how you define fair. "Fair" is not everyone having the same, but rather having what they have earned through opportunity. Please read that in earning both the good and bad from those opportunities. Socialism/Welfare is having what someone else earned through their opportunities. You tell me which is fair.

BTW Communism did exist under Lenin. It was Marx who first used the term in the Communist Manifesto. Ironically in order to maintain power under the misery communism brought in 1917 Lenin decided to use capitalism to rescue the Bolsheviks. It was Stalin who fully moved into dictatorship and communism. The argument that it was just bad leaders who corrupted the vision is naive. The "vision" can only be enforced through absolute dictatorship becasue no one thinks it is "fair" when it is imposed on them.

[Guest 44M]

no country ever, had achieved to be communist 100% , not even close...and socialism has nothing to do with people having something someone else earned, thats call stealing, socialism doesn`t even preach equal philosophy, it is just a system where everything is more focused on the people and society rather than money and greed....when I was a kid there were people who had more and people who had less but we all had free education and health care and many other things, I wasn`t riding in the Mercedes but we weren`t diggin in the trash looking for food neither.... socialism is not perfect but it has it`s fortails....

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