The Last Reason You Get That Fired Cartridge Casing...

[Oh Shoot]

... in package with new handguns is ending in October.

 

Maryland Ends Ballistics Imaging Program And Provides A Lesson

 

http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/17/maryland-ends-ballistics-imaging-program-and-provides-a-lesson/

 

- OS

[Worriedman]

Well, a smidgen of sanity in an otherwise corrupt Police State.

[K191145]

What, no more free spent case with your gun? Reloaders will be devistated. Some states wanted to have a fingerprint of your gun and from what I have heard it was too easy to change that fingerprint anyway.  

[Ugly]

As a taxpayer, I feel the legislators need to be financially liable for their failed programs. I bet millions were spent in this. Zero crimes solved, zero.

[Oh Shoot]

As a taxpayer, I feel the legislators need to be financially liable for their failed programs. I bet millions were spent in this. Zero crimes solved, zero.

 

You paid taxes in MD and NY? ;)

 

- OS

[BigK]

It's stories like this that make me realize how lucky I am to live in TN. Our gun laws are definitely not perfect, but they could clearly be worse.

I hope this failed policy in MD was extremely costly for the state's taxpayers, because they elected the idiots that passed the law. Stupidity SHOULD be expensive.

[Oh Shoot]

It's stories like this that make me realize how lucky I am to live in TN. Our gun laws are definitely not perfect, but they could clearly be worse.

I hope this failed policy in MD was extremely costly for the state's taxpayers, because they elected the idiots that passed the law. Stupidity SHOULD be expensive.

 

Yeah, but it and the previous NYS law forced every hand gun manufacturer to do the spent casing thing for all of the guns, since they couldn't know where each would wind up being sold.

 

So may not have actually been significant all in all with cost increase to consumers, but the manufacturers did have to account for the extra labor time in firing and collecting a shell, labeling the little envelope, keeping a record of it, whatever.

 

Just an example of how all these various state laws affect gun manufacturers if indeed they want to sell products in those states. Hell, most aren't selling any handguns at all in Kali now -- you can say "good enough for Kali", but the people being slammed aren't the lawmakers but rather the citizens and the gun companies, that's a huge market there.

 

- OS

Edited April 19, 2015 by Oh Shoot

[Ugly]

OS, I did in MD when I was stationed there.
As a general note, wouldn't accountability by legislators be great? Not just the occasional loss at the ballot but true accountability?

For example in this case, if this program costs the taxpayers 1million, take it from the party itself and put it in the budget.

I know that it's rhetorical because I'm sure there are folks that feel the law was still successful because in their mind any gun law is.

I will say in MD the electric company ( co-op) would send a check back to the bill payers after the FY from the profits. Other than that, nothing else positive I can think of from there.

[enfield]

. . . the people being slammed aren't the lawmakers but rather the citizens and the gun companies, that's a huge market there.
 
- OS

It's the same citizens who keep electing the same lawmakers. I pity the fools - they make their own mess.

[Worriedman]

It's the same citizens who keep electing the same lawmakers. I pity the fools - they make their own mess.

We have a bad case of that disease in Tennessee as well.  One would think that Rep. Jim Coley should be counting the days down to his ejection from the house, but we will see.  Steve McDaniel, last surviving member of the "Naifeh 8" is currently Speaker Harwell's bestest friend, her appointed Deputy Speaker and sits athwart the Finance Ways and Means Sub and full committees, along with Charles Sargent, if they can gin up a "cost" to any bill, they do the Speakers will, damn the desire of the rest of the House.
 

[Fourtyfive]

So new gun prices should fall by about 50 cents ! :)

[jtmaze]

So new gun prices should fall by about 50 cents ! :)

$1


Don't forget the saved labor
JTM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited April 19, 2015 by jtmaze

[Oh Shoot]

....
Don't forget the saved labor
....

 

May be a bit more than we think. Not only the firing and labeling of the rounds, but the filing/storage of them also.

 

- OS

[deafdogdief]

May be a bit more than we think. Not only the firing and labeling of the rounds, but the filing/storage of them also.

- OS

Maybe I'm wrong, but wouldn't there still be a qc firing check? Glock test fires all the guns they upgrade or redo at the factory while you wait. Collection and filing may be the real time saver for them. Edited April 19, 2015 by deafdogdief

[Oh Shoot]

Maybe I'm wrong, but wouldn't there still be a qc firing check? Glock test fires all the guns they upgrade or redo at the factory while you wait. Collection and filing may be the real time saver for them.

 

Yeah, I'm sure most fire them, but as you mention, keeping cases sequestered, labeling, filing along with some sort of retrieval system, all that.

 

Of course the whole thing is absurd though. As if a casing at a crime scene could somehow be used to identify not only the brand but the exact gun, among all those sold by every maker of that caliber.

 

"Here, take this casing around to SW, Ruger, SIG, Springfield, etc ad infinitum, and compare it will all the ones they have in storage."

 

"Sure, boss, I'll get right on that."

 

- OS

Edited April 19, 2015 by Oh Shoot

[Ugly]

There is probably an oversized warehouse full of excess furniture and pool tables, dartboards and cots for naps with a staff standing by for the call. And a couple of filing cabinets full of cases. Edited April 20, 2015 by Still Ugly

[DaveTN]

As a taxpayer, I feel the legislators need to be financially liable for their failed programs. I bet millions were spent in this. Zero crimes solved, zero.

They can’t be held financially responsible; they don’t have that much money. They are held accountable with their jobs. Each and every election we get to keep them or fire them. Edited April 20, 2015 by DaveTN

[npgunner]

May be a bit more than we think. Not only the firing and labeling of the rounds, but the filing/storage of them also.

 

- OS

In an effort to save us all a buck, I'm willing to volunteer (to save on labor cost) to test fire as many guns as glock, et al., can produce (on their ammo of course).  

 

... with regards to filing/storing/organizing all the spent rounds ... well, they can keep paying someone for that.  

[Ugly]

Hillary is gonna blow 2.5Billion! They don't have enough?

[DaveTN]

Hillary is gonna blow 2.5Billion! They don't have enough?

That isn’t her money. She has a net worth of 21.5 million. That 2.5 billion is coming from supporters that hopefully are wasting their money.

[Ugly]

My point is it would be nice if the party would be held accountable for their decisions. It doesn't matter whose money it is, they gave it to a democrat to waste as a democrat.

[rmiddle]

You paid taxes in MD and NY? ;)

 

- OS

 

Yes.

[Jeb48]

When NY did away with the shell casing requirement a few years ago it was reported that no crime had been solved with the casings.  They kept cutting the budget of the department that was suppose to catalog the casing till they couldn't keep up and they were several barrels of cartridges behind in their work when closed down. 

[Oh Shoot]

When NY did away with the shell casing requirement a few years ago it was reported that no crime had been solved with the casings.  They kept cutting the budget of the department that was suppose to catalog the casing till they couldn't keep up and they were several barrels of cartridges behind in their work when closed down. 

 

Oh, so NY and MD were in charge of the shell databases then. The gun companies simply had to supply the fired casing, and the FFL I guess was to remove it from package and send it in upon selling the gun. That makes more "sense".

- OS

[rmiddle]

Oh, so NY and MD were in charge of the shell databases then. The gun companies simply had to supply the fired casing, and the FFL I guess was to remove it from package and send it in upon selling the gun. That makes more "sense".

- OS

 

Yes.  In Maryland they were being dumped into barrels for years as there was no money to even process them.  

 

Thanks

Robert