One of those Knocks ....

[Fourtyfive]

My daughter calls and tells me that SWAT and Metro Nashville beat on her door this afternoon, they had guns drawn. She is the most helpless person on the planet , not even a gun owner. I asked what happened , did you get a name, a badge number ? ..... NO .... I am awaiting a call back from her for more info .... Apparently they meant to be on the other side of her duplex ... Thank God they did not do anything STUPID ....

[Someotherguy]

When seconds count, the swat team will be there in minutes....At the wrong apartment.........

[Randall53]

This is such a dangerous scenario that can cost innocent lives. I cannot believe the target area is not 100% verified in triplicate by several team leaders in these situations. It happens too often IMHO.

[Fourtyfive]

Now I'm hearing they were Federal Marshals .....Steam is actually coming out of my ears. I will update with whatever I can find out......I have looked at Metro Nashvilles crime map and of course see nothing..... Edited April 1, 2015 by Fourtyfive

[Grand Torino]

Now I'm hearing they were Federal Marshals .....Steam is actually coming out of my ears. I will update with whatever I can find out......

Whatever they were it just pisses me off when a bunch of yahoos can't even get the address right before they go beating on someone's door. You see this time and time again. People get injured or worse when completely innocent people get overwhelmed by people that can't figure out what door they should be banging on.

I'm glad it turned out okay in your case.

[vontar]

I believe it is just as bad that bounty hunters can't just break in with no search warrants.  Sometimes they also have the wrong address.

Edited April 1, 2015 by vontar

[itchytriggerfinger]

Call WKRN News 2 and get that crap on TV.  As much as I despise Andy Cordan, he'll be there to cover the story and be WAYYY to emphatic about it.

[Randall53]

Heads should roll when those types of events occur and serious charges levied on anyone that injures of kills an innocent over a wrong address.

[Oh Shoot]

Heads should roll when those types of events occur and serious charges levied on anyone that injures of kills an innocent over a wrong address.

 

Think of what a medical facility has to pay out when an operation is done on wrong part of body, even when the results aren't devastating.

 

- OS

[Fourtyfive]

Looks like that is all the info I'm gonna get tonight , sorry. This ain't right ....

[btq96r]

These types of incidents aren't rare, sorry to say.  You can Google enough examples to see that easy enough.  What is lacking, IMO, is accountability.  Fourtyfive, thankfully it seems like this was a straight knock, but too often, these are done with no-knock warrants, or served no-knock style regardless of what the warrant says.

 

Think about how some of us would have handled it.  A loud pounding at the door when I'm not expecting anyone, or anything...I get my gun before checking the peephole.  Do it at night, or before I'm awake in the morning, and I'm for sure going to think home invasion and respond in that mindset.  Too much potential for trouble in my mind.

[Randall53]

Think about how some of us would have handled it.  A loud pounding at the door when I'm not expecting anyone, or anything...I get my gun before checking the peephole.  Do it at night, or before I'm awake in the morning, and I'm for sure going to think home invasion and respond in that mindset.  Too much potential for trouble in my mind.

 

These are my thoughts exactly and how innocent people die thinking they are being attacked by bad guys and why there is NO room for error in these events and absolute certainty that the correct address is the target.

[hipower]

Call WKRN News 2 and get that crap on TV.  As much as I despise Andy Cordan, he'll be there to cover the story and be WAYYY to emphatic about it.

We agree on both parts. lol

[DaveTN]

So they knocked on the door, she answered it and talked to them, and they left?

[Worriedman]

Think of what a medical facility has to pay out when an operation is done on wrong part of body, even when the results aren't devastating.

 

- OS

Uh, I think the legislature has limited that to $750,000.00 in toto a year or so back.  Part of that "Conservative" agenda in tort reform.

[Fourtyfive]

So they knocked on the door, she answered it and talked to them, and they left?

That's what she told me.

[Pete123]

I'm having more and more concern about behavior by law enforcement. 

 

There are many wonderful law enforcement officers, several of whom have been nice to me when I got pulled over, ran out of gas, etc...  My comments don't apply to them.  I also recognize that LE doesn't pay that well and that they stress is very high.

 

I see two primary issues:

 

First, Abusers, who are always cowards, are drawn to jobs where they will have distinct power over others.  LE is one of these types of jobs.  Law enforcement is not doing a sufficient job in screening these people before hiring them and don't sufficiently hold them accountable for bad behavior.

 

Next, humans need to be accountable for our actions as most will not hold themselves accountable.  That's why we have bosses, law enforcement, government, voters, stock holders, etc....

 

Law enforcement leadership is not holding those within their organizations sufficiently accountable for their actions.  As an example, in Habersham County, GA a law enforcement unit killed a young pastor with no criminal history in a drug raid.  A jury gave his family a lot of money, though that money comes from the tax payers - not the ones that killed him.

 

Same law enforcement unit a couple of years later.  Goes to a house with a no knock warrant to do a drug bust.  They throw a flash grenade through the front door into a baby's crib and horrendously injured the baby.  

 

Later that day the sheriff makes a statement that there was no way they could have known and would handle it the same way if they faced it again.  He said they had no information that there were children there, yet the front yard was full of children's toys.  The police claimed they had to use the grenade because something, which they claimed was the baby crib, was blocking the door.

 

Yet the family had a picture of the crib and it was well away from the door.  Besides, who would possibly block the front door with the baby's crib?  Criminals might, but there were no criminals in the house when the bust occurred.

 

This story illustrates my point that LE leadership fails to demand accountability.  The multiple instances of things like this happening show that the lack of accountability is wide spread. 

 

Within the past week they caught a detective being verbally abusive and racist toward a driver who had done nothing wrong. Someone in the back seat recorded it. Employees at a company that behaved that way would be fired on the spot in most cases.  This guy gets reassigned.  

 

Negative behavior won't change until enough upstanding citizens call out this unacceptable behavior to force change.

Edited April 3, 2015 by Pete123