Man faces 10 years in prison for possessing antique flintlock pistol

[mootw]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/gordon-van-gilder-72-faces-10-years-in-prison-for-/

[Ugly]

The mentality is insane. Truly insane. Rules are rules, logic not allowed.

[btq96r]

The guy is a double idiot.  He lives in NJ, so he should know any gun is more or less a no-go...then consenting to a search of his car was stupid as well.  I'm also curious as to why the gun was in his glove compartment, and not at home.  He's obviously not defending himself with it, was he on his way to a sale or something? 

 

Not saying he deserves what he is getting, but situational awareness goes a long way.  I hope he gets 12 people that believe in jury nullification to decide his fate.

[Grand Torino]

That's one of the most stupid things I've ever heard of in my life. NJ is full of crazy legislators. You couldn't pay me to live there.

[Raoul]

Why in the world did he consent to a search of his car during a traffic stop?

[Ugly]

He has to be one of those people that believed the gov was making laws to reduce crime and not criminalize law abiding citizens.

At his age I'm sure he can't believe it. This is America, was at least.

He probably also believes the LEO community are there to protect and serve, not act as henchmen for petty third world dictator types.

The lawmakers and decision makers need to be held accountable, till then the insanity will continue.

[john455]

BHA it's NJ enough said, I honestly don't know why anyone who has a choice would live in NJ or NY I've been to both and couldn't wait to leave!!!!!!!!!

[Oh Shoot]

He probably voted for Christie, who has said that NJ firearms laws "are about right".

 

- OS

[300winmag]

I'd live in NY before NJ and that is hard to say but at least you have a chance at a carry license in NY.

[mootw]

He probably voted for Christie, who has said that NJ firearms laws "are about right".

 

- OS

 

A very good reason NOT to support Christie in the primaries should he throw his hat in the ring.

[E4 No More]

Wide load will surely pardon him...right?  :dunno:

[DaveTN]

I want to know why they were searching his car. I want to know "The rest of the story".

[Garufa]

I want to know why they were searching his car. I want to know "The rest of the story".

 

I'm sure they had reasonable cause, he's only a 72 year old retired school teacher.

[DaveTN]

I'm sure they had reasonable cause, he's only a 72 year old retired school teacher.

Obviously he is a 72 year old teacher. It’s just me; anytime someone starts a conversation about a gun on a traffic stop my first question is “How did the gun become an issue?” I’d ask the Pope the same question.

[dawgdoc]

Why in the world did he consent to a search of his car during a traffic stop?

 

I have talked to a lot of people that don't understand the concept of consent.  They seem to believe that once you have been detained, then LEOs can pretty do anything they want.  They think if you refuse a cop, then you automatically go to jail (or at the very least get a ticket).  I have tried to educate them about their rights, but the idea persists.

[jphillips63]

This will get thrown out, the handgun falls into the classification of a relic not a firearm.

[Chucktshoes]

[mootw]

 

 

Beautiful!!!  Spot on!!!

[Oh Shoot]

This will get thrown out, the handgun falls into the classification of a relic not a firearm.

 

Under NJ law?

 

- OS

[DaveTN]

Under NJ law?

Not according to the attorneys in this article.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/18/flintlock-from-1700s-could-land-elderly-nj-man-in-prison/

[redfsr]

Regardless of the rest of the story, no one should face any jail time for simply possessing a flintlock firearm.  Not even under federal law is that illegal for even a felon to possess.  I would like to know what led to them to want to search his car.    

[Chief07]

New Jersey gun laws deny it's citizens their 2nd amendment rights. 

This is what happens when you have communists running the legislature 

in Trenton.

Concealed carry is non existent in the Communist state of Jersey.

Fat boy is part of the problem.  :rant:  :rant:

It will never change there. Way too many left wing idiots living there.

That's why I moved to The free state of Tennessee!

[Randall53]

I agree to never consent to a search, but then some of the LEO's in our great country feel it's ok to bypass you're rights by bringing in the dog that's been taught to "alert" on command. Then they'll do it anyway.

[KahrMan]

Looks like NJ came to their senses and dropped the charges.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/26/nj-prosecutor-drops-gun-charge-against-retired-teacher-over-centuries-old/?intcmp=latestnews

[analog_kidd]

Somebody explain to me why he was even arrested. Is it illegal to even posess a gun in NJ? Seems like if it was unloaded and out of reach by being in the glove box, transportation law would have kicked in. How are you supposed to get a gun from the store to the house?