Name that Rifle - another from the attic

[Guest gcrookston]

It may appear at first glance to be a GEW98, but it's not

Edited November 1, 2008 by gcrookston

[Mike.357]

is it a US Model 1917 aka the American Enfield?

There is a little old country store I go to sometimes for lunch and they have one hanging behind the meat case. Looks a lot like what you are holding.

[Guest gcrookston]

is it a US Model 1917 aka the American Enfield?

There is a little old country store I go to sometimes for lunch and they have one hanging behind the meat case. Looks a lot like what you are holding.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Enfield_M1917_Air_Zoo.JPG

although a great rifle, that's not it.

Edited November 1, 2008 by gcrookston

[Mike.357]

i am very curious as what the rifle is now. I thought a 1917 is what they told me when I asked.

[Guest gcrookston]

i am very curious as what the rifle is now. I thought a 1917 is what they told me when I asked.

The rifle I am holding in that picture is unaltered. Note the "ears" protecting the front and rear sights of the M1917 (or M1914) Enfield. Also note the "swagger" of the M1914 bolt handle compared to the rifle I am holding. There are many other differences. The Enfield's rear sights rested at the rear of the receiver, while this gun has sights forward, mounted on the barrel.

Hint: Weimar Republic

Edited November 1, 2008 by gcrookston

[Mike.357]

a Mauser would be too obvious

[ShaunM]

I know a really long rifle. O.k I don't know. I thought it was a GEW98 been looking online and can't seem to find it. What caliber is it?

Edited November 1, 2008 by Hunting101

[Guest gcrookston]

I know a really long rifle. O.k I don't know. I thought it was a GEW98 been looking online and can't seem to find it. What caliber is it?

7.92x57 and it is a Mauser, but not a Gew98 or k98

[ShaunM]

KAR98 a little late see I am going crazy trying to find out.

[ShaunM]

German standard model 1933? If not I give up you win.

[Guest gcrookston]

German standard model 1933? If not I give up you win.

Tada... Almost... As close as you can get. This rifle started out life as a pristine unissued Gew98, but it went through all the 1933 conversions before the modifications were standardized: bent bolt, ladder sight and was scrubbed of all it's Gew98 markings, including serial number.

This rifle was the prototype of the first issue to the newly formed Waffen SS. But, well, it was a 1929 Trophy rifle awarded as a shooting prize to S. Dietrich in October of that year. Sepp Dietrich? no one knows for sure. But the modifications to this rifle where to become the early standard for the Gew98-B as issued from 1933 to 1936 before the adoption of the K98kar in late 1935. As such, it is considered by most advanced collectors to be a one-off.

You can see this very rifle at the NRA museum. On the obverse side of the stock is the plack stating the match and award dated. Sorry, I have yet to locate that picture.

Good research Hunting101~

Edited November 1, 2008 by gcrookston

[ShaunM]

I almost had it

[Guest gcrookston]

ok, here's an even harder one. First, it is a Colt Woodsman, 2nd Generation... Hint: B-36

[Guest gcrookston]

oh, note the upper lefthand corner, that's Joe's M1917

[ShaunM]

is it a 4" Sport Model circa 1968 with a different barrel?

nope,

Hint #2

NORAD

Edited November 2, 2008 by gcrookston

[Guest gcrookston]

is it a 4" Sport Model circa 1968 with a different barrel?

nope,

Hint #2

NORAD

besides, by 1968 they were on the 3rd variation

[Guest gcrookston]

This is really for the Colt guys, Hint #1 B-36, Hint #2 Norad... this can't be as obscure as it is rare?

[ShaunM]

Not much of a pistol guy but I will still give it a go.

Edited November 2, 2008 by Hunting101

[Guest gcrookston]

One of 925 Woodsmans made on contract for the USAF in 1949. Factory letter indicates that it was shipped to the Ogden Air Materiel area for use in Arctic survival kits. Unusual features include fixed rear sight, different type front sight, no automatic slide stop, no lanyard ring, and no grip adapter nor any provision for a grip adapter. These were sold to the public in the 1960's through the Director of Civilian Marksmanship.

[Guest Verbal Kint]

I've got a pre-Woodsman that also belonged to my late grandfather, that I can post photos of if you're interested in seeing it.

Not quite as "worn" as the National Match 1911 of his, but it does have a couple scratches here and there... and is wearing a set of custom wooden target grips that he made for it. Not sure if the stock (elephant?) grips are lurking around somewhere or not.

I'll try to snap a few photos of it tomorrow.

[Guest gcrookston]

I've got a pre-Woodsman that also belonged to my late grandfather, that I can post photos of if you're interested in seeing it.

Not quite as "worn" as the National Match 1911 of his, but it does have a couple scratches here and there... and is wearing a set of custom wooden target grips that he made for it. Not sure if the stock (elephant?) grips are lurking around somewhere or not.

I'll try to snap a few photos of it tomorrow.

I'd like to see it:up:

[Guest sling]

Heres one...

[Guest gcrookston]

I thought at first it was a Nomad, but I have no idea....

[Guest sling]

Ok. Its sat long enough. This is in fact the Bushmaster "arm pistol."

The Bushmaster weapons system was based on the function and operating principles of the patented IMP aircrew survival weapon designed at the United States Air Force Armament Laboratory at Eglin Air Force Base. Subsequent design changes integrated the battle proven characteristics of the U. S. military M16 and the unexcelled gas system of the Russian military AK-47; thus attaining the simplicity and functionability of the current Bushmaster production.

By consistently and methodically applying these principles, it has been possible to make a high percentage of all individual parts in the various weapons comprising the Bushmaster system identical and thus interchangeable both among various models and with the Colt M16.

The overall concept of the U. S. M16 and Soviet AK-47 have been in military use for many years and both countries continue to produce these proven designs in large quantities. Along with these concepts, the utilization of all practicable new developments in the field of weapons technology, improved materials and the empl.bymenVs of the most advanced machine tools and special equipment insures that the shooter has at his disposal a weapon of .. sophisticated design and technology.

These were made back in the 70's

Edited November 6, 2008 by sling

[Burboy]

Dang it Sling. I just found this thread and I actually knew what that one was and you had to go give it away.

Years ago I looked at one at a Goodman show for $700.