Need info!! CCW permit question

[Guest acrolli27]

I am a new resident to TN and had a question about CCW and DUIs. I had a bad lapse of judgement and got two duis in 2009 back to back. Before you judge. I know the wrong doing and dumb things I have done. My question is can I get my CCW. Both of the DUIs are over five years old im just a little confused with the "and" statement in the laws. Please help.

[2.ooohhh]

No, you can apply for carry permit on the 10yr+1 day anniversary of your first conviction(of the pair) assuming you aren't charged again between then and now. So sound like 2019 sometime. If you were charged again there would be a min. 5 year wait from that conviction.

 

"The applicant has not been convicted of the offense of driving under the influence of an intoxicant in this or any other State two (2) or more times within ten (10) years from the date of application and that none of such convictions has occurred within five (5) years from the date of application or renewal."

[Raoul]

Ahh the crap we do in our youth.

Wait a bit for Oh Shoot our resident big brain to chime in with an answer. He'll get it sorted out.

Oh, and welcome to TGO. Why don't you stop by and intro yourself in the new member intro section.

Looks like you got an answer.

Edited January 26, 2015 by Raoul

[2.ooohhh]

BTW- Welcome to TN.

[Guest acrolli27]

Thank you for the welcome... I moved here from commy california. I love it here.

[Guest acrolli27]

Dumb question. But any way I can still apply and slip under the radar?

[MacGyver]

I probably wouldn't bet on that plan.

[Raoul]

Dumb question. But any way I can still apply and slip under the radar?

Not likely. The world's too wired.

[Raoul]

Thank you for the welcome... I moved here from commy california. I love it here.

There are few places better than TN.

[Guest acrolli27]

I still love it here. So what the law with a pistol in my car without a CCW?

[Jonnin]

Dumb question. But any way I can still apply and slip under the radar?

 

what you are asking is if you can break the law.  Yes, you can.   This goes back to those same ideas about dumb mistakes made in youth (or whenever).   You might get away with it.  We do not advocate breaking the law on this forum ... if you want to play that game, you have to be ready to suffer any punishments that fall your way if you are caught.  Just like the DUI... consequences.   I strongly advise against breaking the law, but you certainly "can".

 

In this case, I think you just get denied and no real harm done.  But in the worst case, you knowingly get your permit and they find out about it later...  and come calling.  What happens then?  I don't have a clue.  But it can't be good.

Edited January 26, 2015 by Jonnin

[Pain103]

 Don't try it please. If you intentionally answer the application wrong to get a HCP it can come back and bite you. And that won't just be bye bye HCP. I have seen it happen once.

[DaveTN]

Dumb question. But any way I can still apply and slip under the radar?

When you got your Tennessee Driver’s License one of the questions was “Have you ever been convicted of DUI in any state?” How did you answer that?

[Guest acrolli27]

I wouldn't ever lie on an app. Just wanted to know if it would be overlooked thats all.

[Chucktshoes]

On the upside, you can keep a loaded gun in your car, but yeah, no go on getting the permit for the next 4 years or so.

[Guest acrolli27]

Put all the info on license app. Do not see the relevence. Is there one?

[Guest acrolli27]

Loaded in the car reachable is ok? Sorry for all the questions. Remember I came from commy cali.

[Pain103]

As long as your legal to own the firearm you can have it loaded and ready to rock in the car. No HCP needed.

Edited January 26, 2015 by Pain103

[jtmaze]

TN carry permit and DL have the same number and are Linked together. They will know.

[Guest acrolli27]

Good to know. Does open carry need the CCW?

[Jonnin]

As long as your legal to own the firearm you can have it loaded and ready to rock in the car. No HCP needed.

 

Handguns.  You may NOT have a loaded rifle in the car.  You can have a loaded rifle mag / empty rifle chamber in the car WITH a HCP.  Hopefully this is still correct, stuff changes a bit.

 

Yes, carry is carry in TN, need permit for loaded handguns unless hunting or on private property.

Edited January 26, 2015 by Jonnin

[DaveTN]

Put all the info on license app. Do not see the relevence. Is there one?

They will be looking at that info when they process your application. They will specifically check the state you surrendered your license from.

[Guest acrolli27]

Ok. Let me wrap my head around this. Loaded ready to shoot pistol ok in car. Loaded rifle not. Is that right? And any recommended classes for my wife to take shes a newbie. We live in clarksville.

[Jonnin]

Ok. Let me wrap my head around this. Loaded ready to shoot pistol ok in car. Loaded rifle not. Is that right? And any recommended classes for my wife to take shes a newbie. We live in clarksville.

 

the permit *requires* taking a class.  So do that class first ... someone can point you to something in your area.   It will cover the basics including shooting the gun a little under simple conditions.

[Oh Shoot]

No, you can apply for carry permit on the 10yr+1 day anniversary of your first conviction(of the pair) assuming you aren't charged again between then and now. So sound like 2019 sometime. If you were charged again there would be a min. 5 year wait from that conviction.

 

"The applicant has not been convicted of the offense of driving under the influence of an intoxicant in this or any other State two (2) or more times within ten (10) years from the date of application and that none of such convictions has occurred within five (5) years from the date of application or renewal."

 

Sorry but that's incorrect. As per your quote above, there are two conditions:

 

Condition 1: 2 or more DUIs in last 10 years

Condition 2: At least one DUI in last five years.

 

The "and" is important - both conditions must be met to deny HCP. Two or more DUI convictions in last 10 years, each over 5 years from date of application is not a disqualifying situation.

 

Here's real world proof, for any doubters:

 

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/59670-ccw-questions/

 

I also had a second example thread bookmarked, but have misplaced it.

 

- OS

Edited January 27, 2015 by Oh Shoot