M&P guys, check your barrels

[KKing]

Saw this posted on Chris Costa's facebook page. Thought maybe it might be worth checking out. Just a heads up.

[felinesNfreedom]

I see nothing wrong, looks like a normal shooting session for me.

[Garufa]

"Barrels are breaking apart at the crown". 

 

A picture or two would go a long way toward lending some credibility to that statement.

[musicman]

Four M&P pistols here. Maybe 6-7k through them in total. No issues as of yet.

[SlapChopDonkey]

The early M&P 9mm's were known to have an accuracy problem in many guns due to the barrels. I haven't heard of it in a few years though.

[Erik88]

Wouldn't surprise me. Remember the M&P Hickok was shooting with the cracked slide?

[LagerHead]

I see nothing wrong, looks like a normal shooting session for me.

 

Look at all the little holes that look kind of like the holes shotgun pellets would make, except with a larger spread.

[KKing]

Apparently all of them were newer built guns. Just kinda scary to me. Edited December 18, 2014 by KKing

[Smith]

The early M&P 9mm's were known to have an accuracy problem in many guns due to the barrels. I haven't heard of it in a few years though.

That was a twist rate decision. They early ones occasionally had problems with 147g bullets. They changed the twist rate a couple years ago and have had no complaints.

[felinesNfreedom]

Oh yeah, looks like bird shot.

[dcloudy777]

"Barrels are breaking apart at the crown". 
 
A picture or two would go a long way toward lending some credibility to that statement.

Most definitely. The whole thing seems quite fishy with no pictures of the damaged guns.

[TN-popo]

If that's actually Costa posting that (I'm not a Facebook user), then it's not fishy to me.

He's not done anything, that I'm aware of, to make me question his integrity.

Edited December 31, 2014 by TN-popo

[mikegideon]

If that's actually Costa posting that, then it's not fishy to me.

 

Sure looks like him...

 

https://www.facebook.com/Official.Chris.Costa

[Capbyrd]

I saw this earlier and chose to ignore it.  Unreliable source with no proof to back up the claim.  Typical internets.

[KKing]

I saw this earlier and chose to ignore it. Unreliable source with no proof to back up the claim. Typical internets.

So Chris Costa isn't a reliable source to you? :shrug:

Some of you guys, sheesh.

[BrasilNuts]

I see nothing wrong, looks like a normal shooting session for me.

I took that to mean that your marksmanship was that bad. :) Edited December 18, 2014 by BrasilNuts

[mikegideon]

I saw this earlier and chose to ignore it.  Unreliable source with no proof to back up the claim.  Typical internets.

 

:rofl:

[mikegideon]

So Chris Costa isn't a reliable source to you? :shrug:

Some of you guys, sheesh.

 

He's yankin' your crank

[felinesNfreedom]

I took that to mean that your marksmanship was that bad. :)

 

 

Well...... :nervous:

[maroonandwhite]

You think maybe the operator was rolling around in the dirt and filled the barrel full?

[KKing]

He's yankin' your crank

If so, oops.

If I'm not mistaken, Costa owns and runs a CORE series quite extensively. I got no dog in the race other than not wanting TGO guys' barrels to splinter or whatnot, but I can't see this as fishy no matter how hard I try.

[mikegideon]

If so, oops.

If I'm not mistaken, Costa owns and runs a CORE series quite extensively. I got no dog in the race other than not wanting TGO guys' barrels to splinter or whatnot, but I can't see this as fishy no matter how hard I try.

 

I would take it as it was offered. Beware of the recently built M&P's until the word gets out and S&W gets their arms around it. I'm sure his training puts a little more strain on the guns than most applications. I'm also betting he notified S&W as well. And, I'm betting they listened.

Edited December 18, 2014 by mikegideon

[satalac]

What I got from this is that Smith & Wesson makes a pretty sweet pocket 9mm shotgun.

[dcloudy777]

I understand that Mr. Costa has a great rep, and he's earned it.

But why in the world would you post a warning about damaged guns and show pictures of targets, not damaged guns?

[JReedEsq]

Everything mechanical and manufactured can and will have flaws.  I recently rented an M&P 9 and put 50 rounds through it head to head with my Glock 17.  I've got to say that the M&P is a good shooting gun, although it did have a light strike with ammo the range makes you put through the rental guns.  I popped that round into my Glock 17 and it fired off without a hitch.  Does this make me write off the M&P?  No, I think it was most likely caused by either a hard primer on a bad reload or it could have something to do with the fact that it was a rental that is probably fired a lot and never cleaned.  Either way, I wouldn't write off M&P because of this, or because there are a few issues in a class where the users are probably harder on their pistols than anyone outside of a war zone will ever be.  Still I gotta admit that it made me happy that my G17 eats crappy reloads really well.  

 

Accuracy wise, I shot both of the pistols about the same.  I tried to shoot the same speed on both sides, at 28 feet using one of those 4 on one targets that tactical advantage sells, trading back and forth, each gun 40 rounds both hands, each gun 10 rounds single hand only.  Speed varied but the same amount of fast and slow shots with each.  My Glock wins overall numbers-(more hits in the center ring) but I did notice something... Oddly enough, when I got fast and sloppy and jerked the trigger, my misses with the M&P weren't as bad as my misses with the Glock.  Overall I think it was too close to call...   Of note as that that rental pistol has a better feeling trigger than a lot of M&Ps than I've handled, but it still has a crappy mush of a reset.  

 

I don't plan to switch, but if I did it would probably be for M&P... 

Edited December 19, 2014 by JReedEsq