Over a hundred kids dead in Pakistan

[Caster]

I've been very busy today and only caught a little bit of it. Taliban killed 130 or so kids?

When will the world wake up and realize you don't have a conversation with a dam muzzy.
Start killing them indiscriminately.
I don't wanna sound like the nazis were in relation to Jews but these Muslims are evil.

[Oh Shoot]

Because another one they tried to kill survived and got the Nobel Prize.

 

Maybe this will finally turn the damn Paki government against the frickers in force.

 

- OS

[bersaguy]

Because another one they tried to kill survived and got the Nobel Prize.

 

Maybe this will finally turn the damn Paki government against the frickers in force.

 

- OS

 

 

 

That won't have no influence with the Pakistan Government. What needs to happen is America needs to quit sending them millions and millions of dollars every few months until they take steps necessary to make a stand against the terrorists. To them the money is far more important that the lives of 1000's of Children............jmho

[peejman]

I can't come up with the appropriate words. I'm not sure they exist in the English language.

If the world didn't believe how despicable and cowardly the Taliban is before, maybe they will now.

[Caster]

OBVIOUSLY, the children and their family did NOT deserve this. Re-read that first statement. No child deserves this.


....BUT, Pakistan (as a country) does deserve it. They've harbored these peices of walking fecal matter for years.
You can't keep a snake for a pet and then bitch when it bites you.

[bersaguy]

Remember where Osama Bin Laden was hiding all those years before they got him. We took him from a house 1/2 mile from a Pakistan Military base yet for years they said they were on our side and also were hunting for him. When they took him out of that country is when the money should have stopped flowing from America, period!!!!...............jmho

[peejman]

And the world was outraged by the CIA torture report because how they interrogated grown men sworn to kill every infidel on the planet was wrong...

[TGO David]

I really struggle with the generalization that the only good Muslim is a dead one as is being advocated by a few folks in this thread.  For the sake of avoiding brash generalizations, consider for a moment that not all Spanish Catholics in the late 1400's murdered people under the auspices of the Spanish Inquisition any more than all Muslims are out killing children.  It was a select few and, statistically, is a select few in the current predicament.

 

That being said, Islam at it's fundamental root is a very vicious and evil religion as it pertains to how the unbeliever is to be treated, and that certainly cannot be ignored as more and more bloodthirsty sociopaths flock to fundamental Islam as a justification for the evil that they desire to do.

 

I support the wholesale elimination by whatever means necessary of radical, fundamental Muslim sociopaths seeking to commit murder but I also support the peaceful approach of prayerfully hoping that the moderate Muslim soul can be enlightened to the truth of Christ and saved.  Thus, the struggle.

 

I guess it all boils down to individual intent.  If the individual intends to do harm, we should intend to do greater harm first so as to dissuade them or make it impossible.  Conversely if they do not intend to do harm, then they should be allowed to live out life to it's natural end regardless of what belief system they choose to subscribe to.

[mikegideon]

Rand Paul did a good job of putting it into perspective tonight. There is a billion or so Muslims out there. These heathens are a minority. It's just that 5% of a billion is a whole lotta heathens. I also agree with Rand that Islam should be doing a lot more to control them. In the end, they are probably going to have to defend themselves.

Edited December 17, 2014 by mikegideon

[TGO David]

Rand Paul did a good job of putting it into perspective tonight. There is a billion or so Muslims out there. These heathens are a minority. It's just that 5% of a billion is a whole lotta heathens. I also agree with Rand that Islam should be doing a lot more to control them. In the end, they are probably going to have to defend themselves.

 

Well to be clear, I think Islam is the root of the problem.   That a person can claim to be a Moderate Muslim is a bit apocryphal in and of itself as the fundamentals of the religion demand all or nothing.  BUT, the religion also allows for deceit on the part of a true believer (aka claiming to be moderate) in order to hide and wage jihad, so it's kind of a crap shoot.  If a fundamental tenant of your belief system is that you are allowed and encouraged to be dishonest in certain cases, how can anything you say about your religion truly be believed other than what is written about it by the mass-murdering pedophile [facts] who founded it?

 

The only honest way to assess a religion's true beliefs is to read what was written about it by the creator of the religion.

 

Now do I think that some modern, progressive Muslims want to believe that they can adhere to a watered-down version of Islam and eject the violent fundamentals in an effort to be walk on both sides of the fence?  Yes, absolutely.  There are good people who claim to be Muslim but don't believe all of what their religion actually requires them to believe.

 

But that's kind of kind saying you can be a Christian but not believe that Christ literally lived, died and rose from the dead.  If you buy into that line of thinking and try to pick and choose what you believe based on what is convenient to you, many --including myself-- would argue that you're not really a Christian.

 

The funny thing about religious belief systems is that you really have to go full-bore as a believer otherwise you're just doing your religion of choice lip-service.  Which brings us back to the notion that Islam can somehow be a religion of peace by ejecting the nasty bits about killing the unbeliever.  It can't because once you start ejecting fundamentals, you're not really adhering to the religion.

 

Like I said, my sincere hope that as many Muslims can be saved as possible.  But the ones who choose to do harm to others should be dealt with accordingly.

[mikegideon]

Well... if they all jump up and go full jihad at once, at least we'll be using some fully depreciated weapons for a change. :) We don't have enough smart bombs for that.

[TGO David]

Well... if they all jump up and go full jihad at once, at least we'll be using some fully depreciated weapons for a change. :) We don't have enough smart bombs for that.

 

Deprecated or under-appreciated?  :)

[mikegideon]

Deprecated or under-appreciated?   :)

 

I have always been kinda fond of them. I've thought we needed to knock the dust off a few more than once. :) 9/12/01 was one of those times.

[Peace]

130 children - dying a frightful, helpless death.  There is no cry of sadness which is worthy.  Humanity suffered a loss today.   

[Oh Shoot]

130 children - dying a frightful, helpless death.  There is no cry of sadness which is worthy.  Humanity suffered a loss today.   

 

Seeing 141 total deaths now, not counting the instigators. Likely as some die in hospital ongoing perhaps.

 

- OS

Edited December 17, 2014 by Oh Shoot

[kieefer]

Maybe when a real leader gets in office the U.S. will get serious with eliminating these animals.

[RED333]

In public view there are moderate Islamist, they tell you that we can all get along in peace just fine.

However behind closed doors all they want is Islam rule over the world, it is their way.

We have to understand that. Mohammad was a peaceful man at first, it did not work fast enough for him.

He than became political, it did not work fast enough ether.

Mohammad than became violent, and with that he was able to get what he wanted.

Read up on things, make your self smart, this Holy war has been going on for 100s of years.

You can never defeat them, just keep them under control, let them live as they want.

When they do lash out you have to put the bad apples in the trash to save the rest.

PC crap is what they use to get away with things.

Check out what is going on in Dearborn MI.

 

It will come down to who believes is their God the most.

[Dirtshooter]

There is but 1 GOD. The god that the muslims pray to isn't the same one that created this world and gave his Son to die on the cross. I really feel bad for the parents and friends of those killed. The people in the middle east have been fightning among themselves for literally thousands of years. I don't want to change this topic, but does anyone find it odd that this happened in Pakistan and within hours there was film of the victims being rushed some by hand to a hospital, however the tragedy at Sandy Hook school none of those kids shot were taken any way to the hospital and given a chance to possibly live?? Does that ring any bells??

[enfield]

This is Pakistan's problem, not America's.  We'll deal with our terrorists, but these ones belong to Pakistan.  I wouldn't trade the life of 1 Marine for a thousand Pakistanis. 

 

Sic 'em Pakis!  Maybe they're hiding up around Abbottabad!

[DWARREN123]

May the ones who did this rot in hell forever!

[btq96r]

There isn't much radical Islam is doing today that I haven't read about with Christianity before they realized that conversion at the point of a sword wasn't the answer.  They may be using different tactics and methods, but the desired end state is the same.  It will burn itself out given enough time.

 

 

Maybe when a real leader gets in office the U.S. Pakistan will get serious with eliminating these animals.

 

Fixed it for you.  This is their problem since they are the ones who have tired to play both sides on this issue since 9/11.  The results they have gotten from that policy are apparent. 

[Oh Shoot]

There isn't much radical Islam is doing today that I haven't read about with Christianity before they realized that conversion at the point of a sword wasn't the answer.  They may be using different tactics and methods, but the desired end state is the same.  It will burn itself out given enough time.

 

 

 

Fixed it for you.  This is their problem since they are the ones who have tired to play both sides on this issue since 9/11.  The results they have gotten from that policy are apparent. 

 

Yeah, Islam is about 500 year younger than Christianity. 

 

Most of Christendom's greatest slaughters in the Old World were over by 1300, those the various pesky Inquisitions lingered -- then the decimation in New World continued into the 1600's, so Islam is about where militant Christianity was then.

 

And while it is not accurate to say it was primarily Christianity itself that slaughtered our own North American Native American populations, it was certainly carried out primarily by Christians within our "Christian Nation", and Christianity as a body certainly didn't rally against it.

 

And that only ended a little over 200 years ago, once we ran out of enough Indian "insurgents" to mount forces against -- and one of the justifications was that hey, after all, they were all just heathens anyway, eh?

 

- OS

Edited December 18, 2014 by Oh Shoot