What model of Winchester is this???

[Richard995]

https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=5215&aid=84895&lid=21157066&rfpb=0#Top

 

I am looking at this double barrel, double trigger, rabbit ear shotgun that is for sale at an auction site.  They are calling it a Winchester Model PRE MODEL 21 12 ga.  I have never seen one of these.  It is not a Model 21.  Can someone tell me the model #? 

 

 

[nightrunner]

I would imagine its similar to how S&W amd others did their guns. Some guns that old were made before they had model numbers, such as a S&W pre-29 .44 Magnum. When you went to buy or order one, you just said, a S&W .44 magnum, because they only made one kind, then later, companies gave their guns model numbers or names.

But that is just a guess

[gregintenn]

Model 1879?

 

I don't think there's a lot of them.

Edited October 14, 2014 by gregintenn

[leroy]

I've seen lots of Remingtons... I've seen no Winchester side hammers....

 

leroy

[Richard995]

Thanks for your reply.  After posting this I did some more research and found this:

 

From 1879 to 1884 Winchester bought breech loading double barrel hammer shotguns from a number of English Gun makers. These shotguns were imported, marked and sold by Winchester through a store maintained by Winchester in New York City. These shotguns were chambered in 10 and 12 gauge, and advertised and marked as "Match Gun", "Class A", "B", "C" and "D". The total of all types sold was approximately 10,000. The English Gun makers were W.C. Scott & Sons, Richard Rodman, C.G. Bonehill and W.C. McEntree.

[DaveTN]

Obviously not in nearly the condition, but it looks like this….
http://www.gunsinternational.com/EXTREMELY-RARE-WINCHESTER-DOUBLE-BARREL-MATCH-SHOTGUN.cfm?gun_id=100474059&CFID=7508467&CFTOKEN=b60795cf1db22e9c-C2B55C73-90B1-1C33-46130EB260B90412

[Richard995]

What is your opinion on refinishing this gun?  Would it be worth the 2 to 3 K to do this?

[leroy]

What is your opinion on refinishing this gun?  Would it be worth the 2 to 3 K to do this?

 

Richard... Start here....  http://www.turnbullmfg.com/restoration-services/

 

It will take serious money... Turnbull is the best...

 

leroy

Edited October 16, 2014 by leroy

[gregintenn]

What is your opinion on refinishing this gun?  Would it be worth the 2 to 3 K to do this?

No.