Got let go from work

[blewbayou]

Man, I can relate to this story! Congrats on getting out of a bad situation.

Myself and three others had been eager to get out of our workplace due to some terrible management decisions as well as a just plain awful manager.

Well this past Friday we finally got all of our ducks in a row and all at the same time walked into the managers office and laid down our resignation letters. The manager got pissed at us, told us our two weeks weren't needed, and we could hit the door and don't look back.

He shot himself in the foot as three of us were department leads and knowing what we had planned, had no one cross trained for our positions. Some of the machinery there is no one still employed that can even turn it on without the manufacturer coming in to train. Edited October 14, 2014 by blewbayou

[btq96r]

I have to agree with the post a couple above this one.  The man said he had another job lined up.  Why would he file for unemployment?  He's not. 

 

Another job lined up doesn't mean he's at work somewhere else yet.  I know plenty of people who had a job lined up only to find it wasn't as sure a thing as they thought.  Putting in for unemployment is a prudent step until you actually start a new job.

[56FordGuy]

Another job lined up doesn't mean he's at work somewhere else yet. I know plenty of people who had a job lined up only to find it wasn't as sure a thing as they thought. Putting in for unemployment is a prudent step until you actually start a new job.

Of course. Any time there's uncertainty in one's life, the ideal solution is to run and suckle at the government's breast. To heck with being responsible or even self reliant, nobody can do that! Why, having some savings or a rainy day fund? Not being in debt up to your eyeballs and hanging by a financial thread? Unthinkable!

No, when in doubt your first response should always be to turn to the government welfare system. It's the American way. :USA:


For a lot of folks it's fun to talk about the end of the world, zombies, prepping, etc. Nobody ever talks about financial prepping, and it's a whole lot more likely most of us will face a financial problem long before a horde of zombies come charging at our homes. But who cares about that, there's unemployment, safe link wireless, section 8 housing, etc...


:roll: Edited October 14, 2014 by 56FordGuy

[btq96r]

Of course. Any time there's uncertainty in one's life, the ideal solution is to run and suckle at the government's breast. To heck with being responsible or even self reliant, nobody can do that! Why, having some savings or a rainy day fund? Not being in debt up to your eyeballs and hanging by a financial thread? Unthinkable!

No, when in doubt your first response should always be to turn to the government welfare system. It's the American way. :usa:


For a lot of folks it's fun to talk about the end of the world, zombies, prepping, etc. Nobody ever talks about financial prepping, and it's a whole lot more likely most of us will face a financial problem long before a horde of zombies come charging at our homes. But who cares about that, there's unemployment, safe link wireless, section 8 housing, etc...


:roll:

 

Plenty of people working full time, paying taxes, contributing to the system and living within their means aren't able to save enough to last them through a period of unemployment.  That's just the way things are these days.  I'm fine with helping them out during a downtime so they can keep being productive members of society when they get back on their feet.

 

I don't see this as a sucking at the tit of government type of thing.  RC3 doesn't seem like the type to be sitting on the couch until the benefits run out, and his situation is what unemployment benefits/insurance were designed for.  We have these social programs to help out people in a bad situation and prevent macroeconomic turbulence across the board.  We can probably come to a consensus about reforms that could take place to prevent abuse, but the programs are here to stay unless you live in counterfactual theory.

 

By your logic, people who take Social Security benefits are leaches because they didn't prepare for retirement on their own.

[runco]

Not trying to be ugly, but maybe I am old school, but I thought losing ones job other than a bonafide layoff, was sort of taboo, and not to be shared?  Definitely not to be worn on ones sleeve. 

[vontar]

Not trying to be ugly, but maybe I am old school, but I thought losing ones job other than a bonafide layoff, was sort of taboo, and not to be shared?  Definitely not to be worn on ones sleeve. 

 

Maybe but every place I have ever worked for is out of business.  It is hell putting together references beyond my current job because I have lost touch with people over 10 years back at previous jobs.  Don't want people contacting my current job for a reference and can't give others.  Doesn't look very good on a resume either.

[Grand Torino]

Saw this coming from a mile way. Was planning on placing my resignation on Thursday to give them two weeks to hire a semi decent replacement. Well they beat me to the punch. Where not too happy when I outline the faults with the management and the awful record of employment selection. But now they have their wish with getting rid of the last original.  Good thing I have another opportunity lined up, and am grateful for it.  But I cannot wait to walk in there tomorrow, drop off my shirts and walk out with my binder full of sales leads and plans.  And when they ask me "whats in there and what are you taking", I will tell new the "manager" my sales and customers that will not be going to your store.

 

Oddly enough. I feel great. I never said no, covered shifts at locations that where over 100 miles round trip and havent had a vacation in three years. Hell, I will go shooting tomorrow to celebrate. And enjoy my last day of fall break.

Sorry for the inconvenience but it's good that you have a plan B.  Dedicated, hard working people are generally overpaid is what I've been told and management is always eager to let those people go.

[Chucktshoes]

Plenty of people working full time, paying taxes, contributing to the system and living within their means aren't able to save enough to last them through a period of unemployment. That's just the way things are these days. I'm fine with helping them out during a downtime so they can keep being productive members of society when they get back on their feet.

I don't see this as a sucking at the tit of government type of thing. RC3 doesn't seem like the type to be sitting on the couch until the benefits run out, and his situation is what unemployment benefits/insurance were designed for. We have these social programs to help out people in a bad situation and prevent macroeconomic turbulence across the board. We can probably come to a consensus about reforms that could take place to prevent abuse, but the programs are here to stay unless you live in counterfactual theory.

By your logic, people who take Social Security benefits are leaches because they didn't prepare for retirement on their own.

If you can't afford to save, then you AREN'T living within your means no matter how much you think you are. The reality is that most folks don't have as much means as they think they do.

As far as social security goes, just because person A stole from person B, it doesn't justify person B stealing from person C.

[Chucktshoes]

Oh, to the OP, good luck. I left a job full of terrible management types this year as well. It's a wonderful feeling to know you are free from a particular hell and that the future has possibility again.

[tnguy]

Not trying to be ugly, but maybe I am old school, but I thought losing ones job other than a bonafide layoff, was sort of taboo, and not to be shared?  Definitely not to be worn on ones sleeve. 

 

 

You are oldschool ;). Jobs for life is done and gone and there's nothing shameful about a period of unemployment these days. In fact, if it can be timed right, it's the only way to get vacation worth a damn this side of the Atlantic.

 

As for the unemployment, I'd prefer that was managed as a private voluntary contract but it's there so I see no problem with taking advantage of it. If the government wasn't robbing us blind, we'd have savings to tide us over.

Edited October 15, 2014 by tnguy

[56FordGuy]

Plenty of people working full time, paying taxes, contributing to the system and living within their means aren't able to save enough to last them through a period of unemployment.  That's just the way things are these days.  I'm fine with helping them out during a downtime so they can keep being productive members of society when they get back on their feet.

 

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By your logic, people who take Social Security benefits are leaches because they didn't prepare for retirement on their own.

 

If you're working full time and unable to save, you're not living within your means. Sorry. 

 

I agree, we should help folks who fall on though times; when we choose to, and not through the government. The .gov stealing my money through the tax system to give it to someone else is not helping the less fortunate, it is theft. Help should be (and is) available to people through a large variety of charities that rely on voluntary donations from people, and a lot of those donations would be a lot larger if we weren't already forced to 'give' to the less fortunate by way of government thuggery. 

 

By my logic, folks on SS are leaches because they depend on the government to retire. 

 

Yes. That is correct. I'm sorry you chose not to save money or decided to quit working at 60 years old, but it's not my job/ duty/ obligation to support you for a decision you made just like I didn't expect anyone to come swooping to my rescue when I quit my job.

 

I really wouldn't feel bad at all if the government stopped sending out checks to everyone other than employees who actually show up and work tomorrow; and those employees should get nervous because a large portion of the beuracracy would be unnecessary with no more entitlement programs. "Oh, but what about the so-and-so group who depend on those checks?" Private charities will fill the gap. 

 

Will it ever happen? Nope. Not a chance. Too many people are too comfortable with big daddy government there to hold their hand, or they get scared when they see the hard times that will have to come before things can be fixed. We'll never see the US Federal government shrink down anywhere near what it truly should be, but just because it won't happen doesn't mean that it shouldn't. 

[satalac]

I'd just cut ties and move on. No reason to try and get back at them. Sounds like you're better off without them, just leave and be done with it. It's hard to enjoy things when you have a grudge.

[ncomarc]

Good luck, it'll work out......

[mikegideon]

 

 

By my logic, folks on SS are leaches because they depend on the government to retire. 

 

t. 

 

I'm fine with them shutting down SS if they give me my money back. That money was taken from me, not as tax revenue, but as a "forced" savings plan. I don't give a rat's ass that they squandered the money. It wasn't their money. And, how the hell can somebody be a leach when they are living off their OWN money? If the government had followed your advice, there wouldn't be a problem with SS because they would never have tapped the damn fund. They don't get to go back on the deal now. 

Edited October 15, 2014 by mikegideon

[Luke E.]

If you're working full time and unable to save, you're not living within your means. Sorry. 

 

I agree, we should help folks who fall on though times; when we choose to, and not through the government. The .gov stealing my money through the tax system to give it to someone else is not helping the less fortunate, it is theft. Help should be (and is) available to people through a large variety of charities that rely on voluntary donations from people, and a lot of those donations would be a lot larger if we weren't already forced to 'give' to the less fortunate by way of government thuggery. 

 

By my logic, folks on SS are leaches because they depend on the government to retire. 

 

Yes. That is correct. I'm sorry you chose not to save money or decided to quit working at 60 years old, but it's not my job/ duty/ obligation to support you for a decision you made just like I didn't expect anyone to come swooping to my rescue when I quit my job.

 

I really wouldn't feel bad at all if the government stopped sending out checks to everyone other than employees who actually show up and work tomorrow; and those employees should get nervous because a large portion of the beuracracy would be unnecessary with no more entitlement programs. "Oh, but what about the so-and-so group who depend on those checks?" Private charities will fill the gap. 

 

Will it ever happen? Nope. Not a chance. Too many people are too comfortable with big daddy government there to hold their hand, or they get scared when they see the hard times that will have to come before things can be fixed. We'll never see the US Federal government shrink down anywhere near what it truly should be, but just because it won't happen doesn't mean that it shouldn't. 

 

 

 If SS were like other social programs where the gov. steals money from you to give to others with zero chance of you ever seeing a dime of it again unless you get yourself in bad financial shape, I would agree with you. But it's not, the gov. steals our money with the promise that they will be good stewards and return that money in payments after reaching a certain age. Unless you are some sort of minister or one of the other few exceptions, you have NO choice, we're forced to pay into the savings/retirement program and would be swept off to jail quickly if caught not paying in so to belittle anyone wishing to receive their forced savings seems like BS to me. The only way to keep the program in any sort of "good" health is to move the age of eligibility back a handful of years or so but I don't think I'm okay with that. I'm thinking that my generation is going to need to be the generations that "took it on the chin" in order to spare our children and grandchildren from the madness and theft that is SS. If we keep paying out at the same rate that SS has always been paid then it will bankrupt SS. My plan only works if my generation lets them bankrupt the SS system and then refuses to allow them to start over. If we don't do both of those things then we're dooming our children and grandchildren to be bullied and stolen from the same as we have been. Like Mike, I'd gladly refuse any and all SS benefits if they would return all monies paid in to date so that I could invest on my own but where I differ I think is that I would be willing to keep paying into SS as it is bankrupted so long as I knew that once it crumbled, it would stay crumbled.

[RC3]

They took all my client data out of my binder, but I keep regular contact with some of them and will be directing them to a new store. I was terminated and thus can file for unemployment, but I will only do so as a last resort.  I went in today to return the shirts I had (decided to NOT use them as towels for my car) and heard them interviewing someone.  I didnt know interviewers are supposed to grill and make fun of someone who is applying.  All I know is that they will not find someone who will be on call and drive over a 100 miles to cover someones shift.

 

And I also get the comfort of knowing the inept "company president" lives across the street from my grandmother. So now, if hell freezes over and I visit her, I can tell them both to suck it in one trip.

[R_Bert]

Now,

You can start rebuilding your client database by using Linked-in and your memory. Sesrch for their names, add as connections.

Connect with allies at old company, and competition that you know from other groups, then search their listings.

You will build info pretty quickly. I can now ping far more people than I have in my phone list (which I s over 750 by itself).

Start getting allies to add reccomendations and endorsements.

It will add up pretty quickly.

Feel free to use mine as a example. Search for Bert Rollen. Edited October 15, 2014 by R_Bert

[TMF]

Of course. Any time there's uncertainty in one's life, the ideal solution is to run and suckle at the government's breast. To heck with being responsible or even self reliant, nobody can do that! Why, having some savings or a rainy day fund? Not being in debt up to your eyeballs and hanging by a financial thread? Unthinkable!

No, when in doubt your first response should always be to turn to the government welfare system. It's the American way. :USA:


For a lot of folks it's fun to talk about the end of the world, zombies, prepping, etc. Nobody ever talks about financial prepping, and it's a whole lot more likely most of us will face a financial problem long before a horde of zombies come charging at our homes. But who cares about that, there's unemployment, safe link wireless, section 8 housing, etc...


:roll:

I've never collected unemployment or any government assistance. I don't even go to the VA for healthcare. However, just like all folks here, I've paid unemployment insurance through the style of excise tax that it is. You think companies pay into unemployment insurance out of their own profits? Hell no. That comes from your pay.

If a time comes that I am unemployed against my will, I will absolutely collect unemployment if I can't find a job. It's something I've actually paid into, and a hell of a lot more than folks who are perpetually unemployed. That isn't looking for a hand out or running to the teat.


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[QuietDan]

. . . and walk out with my binder full of sales leads and plans.  And when they ask me "whats in there and what are you taking", I will tell new the "manager" my sales and customers that will not be going to your store.

 

Boy oh boy, in my wife's line of work, you always make sure you've got a duplicate set of such materials off-site. Some folks are terminated in the presence of company security, who escort you back to your desk with a cardboard box for your stuff and supervise your every move as you depart, with you already locked out of company e-mail and internet. 

 

Best wishes for the future.

[runco]

This sure does remind me of a movie plot, hmmm..........................Didn't Jerry get fired and tried to keep his many clients, but in the end only had one?

 

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[satalac]

They took all my client data out of my binder, but I keep regular contact with some of them and will be directing them to a new store. I was terminated and thus can file for unemployment, but I will only do so as a last resort. I went in today to return the shirts I had (decided to NOT use them as towels for my car) and heard them interviewing someone. I didnt know interviewers are supposed to grill and make fun of someone who is applying. All I know is that they will not find someone who will be on call and drive over a 100 miles to cover someones shift.

And I also get the comfort of knowing the inept "company president" lives across the street from my grandmother. So now, if hell freezes over and I visit her, I can tell them both to suck it in one trip.

Come on man, just let it go. I understand being upset, I really do, but it gets you nowhere. Just focus on your new opportunities. If they are as bad as you say they are, you don't need to do anything to them, it will come to them naturally. Don't waste anymore energy on them. Edited October 15, 2014 by satalac

[broox]

 

 

And I also get the comfort of knowing the inept "company president" lives across the street from my grandmother. So now, if hell freezes over and I visit her, I can tell them both to suck it in one trip.

You are going to tell your grandma to "suck it"?

Ouch

[Dolomite_supafly]

If you're working full time and unable to save, you're not living within your means. Sorry. 

 

I agree, we should help folks who fall on though times; when we choose to, and not through the government. The .gov stealing my money through the tax system to give it to someone else is not helping the less fortunate, it is theft. Help should be (and is) available to people through a large variety of charities that rely on voluntary donations from people, and a lot of those donations would be a lot larger if we weren't already forced to 'give' to the less fortunate by way of government thuggery. 

 

By my logic, folks on SS are leaches because they depend on the government to retire. 

 

Yes. That is correct. I'm sorry you chose not to save money or decided to quit working at 60 years old, but it's not my job/ duty/ obligation to support you for a decision you made just like I didn't expect anyone to come swooping to my rescue when I quit my job.

 

I really wouldn't feel bad at all if the government stopped sending out checks to everyone other than employees who actually show up and work tomorrow; and those employees should get nervous because a large portion of the beuracracy would be unnecessary with no more entitlement programs. "Oh, but what about the so-and-so group who depend on those checks?" Private charities will fill the gap. 

 

Will it ever happen? Nope. Not a chance. Too many people are too comfortable with big daddy government there to hold their hand, or they get scared when they see the hard times that will have to come before things can be fixed. We'll never see the US Federal government shrink down anywhere near what it truly should be, but just because it won't happen doesn't mean that it shouldn't. 

 

Problem is the .gov FORCES you to pay into the SS system. Not like retirees had a choice in the matter, they were forced to pay into a system so why not draw back out of it? They will never get out of it what they paid into it.

 

Retirees drawing SS, which they paid into, is like you drawing the money out of your bank account, that you paid into, so if it makes them a leech then it makes you a leech as well. Imagine putting money into that account, voluntarily or by force, then when you try to get your money back out they let you know that most of it no longer belongs to you. You would be livid if your 401K/retirement account was reduced by the same amount retirees, who paid into the system, are seeing.

 

It is easy to save money when you are not paying your social security or other taxes. A lot of people work under the table and fudge the numbers, especially the self employed, to be able to save money but not everybody has the conscience to willy nilly break the law.

 

I guess veterans, who did not pay into the VA system, are even bigger leeches.

[56FordGuy]

The idea that the money you contribute to SS or the unemployment system goes into an account just for you is entirely false. The money you and I are forced to pay into the system is being used to pay benefits to current recipients, and massive amounts of beuracratic overhead.

The money current recipients paid in was squandered long ago, and they should've been keeping a better watch on their elected representatives at that time to fix the damage before it got to this point.

The government has no business in the retirement planning industry; if for no other reason than as we can all see they're pretty terrible at it.

Stealing from one to give to another is wrong, even if the recipient was at one point robbed themselves.

As for it being easy to save of you're not paying taxes or scamming the system, I'm sure it is. That has nothing to do with folks who are playing by the rules but not saving money. That's nobody's fault but their own.

[peejman]

Come on man, just let it go. I understand being upset, I really do, but it gets you nowhere. Just focus on your new opportunities. If they are as bad as you say they are, you don't need to do anything to them, it will come to them naturally. Don't waste anymore energy on them.

 

 

Indeed.  Burning bridges is rarely a good idea.  Going out of your way to be a dick isn't exactly classy, especially to your Grandma.  :o

 

 

The idea that the money you contribute to SS or the unemployment system goes into an account just for you is entirely false. The money you and I are forced to pay into the system is being used to pay benefits to current recipients, and massive amounts of beuracratic overhead.

The money current recipients paid in was squandered long ago, and they should've been keeping a better watch on their elected representatives at that time to fix the damage before it got to this point.

The government has no business in the retirement planning industry; if for no other reason than as we can all see they're pretty terrible at it.

Stealing from one to give to another is wrong, even if the recipient was at one point robbed themselves.

As for it being easy to save of you're not paying taxes or scamming the system, I'm sure it is. That has nothing to do with folks who are playing by the rules but not saving money. That's nobody's fault but their own.

 

 

Amen.  I'm making sure my parents get their SS check.  They money they paid in was pissed away a long time ago.  I have no expectation of SS or Medicare if/when the day comes I can afford to stop working. 

Edited October 15, 2014 by peejman