I Wonder how much this hurt

[Johnny Rotten]

What not to do with a 40mm round
http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2014/10/hero_army_expert_removes_grena.html#incart_2box

[mikegideon]

A lot. Would have hurt worse if it went off.

[DWARREN123]

Would have been blue if a military practice round.

Going to leave a mark for sure!

[173rdABN]

This story seems to use wording to make you think it was a big deal. you know right off the bat if its a practice round or HEDP or whatever else it might be. Seems to be blown way out of proportion. 

[TMF]

Haha, it said in the article that if this was a live round it would have "taken the ambulance apart". Apparently their explosives experts were all trained in Hollywood. These must be packed with the same explosives found in grenades that make people fly through the air. "Tactical nuke 40mm round, 1 each".


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[K191145]

A lot. Would have hurt worse if it went off.

 

If it was a fraq round and it detonated in the mans lap, it wouldn't have hurt at all. Lights out instantly so to speak. Sounds like a .40mm grenade you fire from an M203, it should not even arm at that distance. Of course a practice grenade I believe contains only a marking powder so if one of those detonated it would have hurt probably but right in your face may knock him out at the least. Would yo believe in the 80's at Ft. Stewart I fired probably 15-M203 rounds, a few were flare and smoke and most were fraq explosive rounds. Never fired a "practice" round, didn't knew they exsisted back then, thought the live rounds were practice rounds.

[K191145]

Haha, it said in the article that if this was a live round it would have "taken the ambulance apart". Apparently their explosives experts were all trained in Hollywood. These must be packed with the same explosives found in grenades that make people fly through the air. "Tactical nuke 40mm round, 1 each".


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I laugh when I see someone in a movie throw a "hand grenade" and it blows a whole building apart with a huge fireball, I always comment, "they always seem to land the grenade right next to a 55 gallon drum of gasoline everytime in the movies".

[TMF]

If it was a fraq round and it detonated in the mans lap, it wouldn't have hurt at all. Lights out instantly so to speak.

Maybe not. I've seen two direct hits of 40mm rounds and neither was impressive. One to the foot and the other to the torso. Torso hit was a kill, but didn't do much damage.... Not like one would think from watching lots of movies. He may have even lived if he wasn't left to bleed for an hour or so before he was recovered. Other guy lost part of his foot and had his legs full of coke can looking shrapnel, which none of it went very deep. 40mm is good for making noise and keeping heads down. That's about it.


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[Dolomite_supafly]

This story seems to use wording to make you think it was a big deal. you know right off the bat if its a practice round or HEDP or whatever else it might be. Seems to be blown way out of proportion. 

Most civilians will not be able to tell a HEDP from a practice round. Mention "grenade", even practice, and people freak out.

[K191145]

Maybe not. I've seen two direct hits of 40mm rounds and neither was impressive. One to the foot and the other to the torso. Torso hit was a kill, but didn't do much damage.... Not like one would think from watching lots of movies. He may have even lived if he wasn't left to bleed for an hour or so before he was recovered. Other guy lost part of his foot and had his legs full of coke can looking shrapnel, which none of it went very deep. 40mm is good for making noise and keeping heads down. That's about it.


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I would still think one in the lap would at least stun the victim for a moment. They do make some noise, i'm sure they are more effective in a small room or cab of a vehicle if you are good enough to lob one through a window.

[173rdABN]

Most civilians will not be able to tell a HEDP from a practice round. Mention "grenade", even practice, and people freak out.

 It was an EOD guy. he could have just laughed and said they were all idiots right off the bat. 

[Johnny Rotten]

I wonder if he shot one of these blue Easter eggs into his leg or he got shrapnel from the plastic casing. 

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=446849615

I've read in the past over on ar15.com in the DD section a few individuals reload them..

[TMF]

I would still think one in the lap would at least stun the victim for a moment. They do make some noise, i'm sure they are more effective in a small room or cab of a vehicle if you are good enough to lob one through a window.

It definitely wouldn't be something they'd get up and walk away from if they survived. I was just pointing out that they aren't as damaging and explosive as they are made out to be in this story or in Hollywood. A regular frag grenade produces more, and deeper penetrating shrapnel than one of these.


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[K191145]

It definitely wouldn't be something they'd get up and walk away from if they survived. I was just pointing out that they aren't as damaging and explosive as they are made out to be in this story or in Hollywood. A regular frag grenade produces more, and deeper penetrating shrapnel than one of these.


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Well of course i've never been on the recieving of one or looked at any damage on a range vehicle. They do make a cool flash and boom, the sights weren't all that great I thought back in the 80's, I hope they improved them at least on the M203. I know now they have some multable shot repeater grenade launchers with what looked like some kind of optical sight.

[Dolomite_supafly]

 It was an EOD guy. he could have just laughed and said they were all idiots right off the bat. 

He was but not the civilians. I bet if you tell most civilians you have an "inert grenade" they will freak out because you have a grenade.

 

I have only seen one person die "quickly" from a 40mm and it was a kid in Afghanistan who found a live projectile on the range. He was apparently throwing it up in the air and he missed it. It went off and in the 10 minutes it took US forces to figure out what had happened and get him to the medical station he died.