Home protection

[DixieDawg]

Anybody else on here who has schutzhund trained dogs or who trains their dogs for protection work?

-Dusty-

Edited October 1, 2014 by DixieDawg

[TMF]

I have a biting ass malinois who is the second line of defense after the alarm system. Trained in a long list of man eating skills and methodical building search. I don't do competitions though.


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[wmaddox]

I use a pair of Danes. Not professionally trained bit there size and bark do the trick

[DixieDawg]

Was just curious if anybody else fooled with it my shepherd is a Czech bred got introduced to it years ago as a K-9 officer and have stayed active with it ever since Danes are great dogs with a very intimidating bark just wish they lived longer and as far as the Malinois great dogs just personally prefer my shepherd

-Dusty- Edited October 1, 2014 by DixieDawg

[TMF]

Was just curious if anybody else fooled with it my shepherd is a Czech bred got introduced to it years ago as a K-9 officer and have stayed active with it ever since Danes are great dogs with a very intimidating bark just wish they lived longer and as far as the Malinois great dogs just personally prefer my shepherd

-Dusty-

 

I would recommend a shepherd over a Mal any day of the week.  My Mal is like a shepherd with a crack habit.  They're intelligent, agile, and very good at aggression, but they have to be worked into the ground to expend off that energy.  I run mine 5 miles every other day on top of anti-anxiety meds just to be able to get the obsessive behavior under management.

[DixieDawg]

I would recommend a shepherd over a Mal any day of the week. My Mal is like a shepherd with a crack habit. They're intelligent, agile, and very good at aggression, but they have to be worked into the ground to expend off that energy. I run mine 5 miles every other day on top of anti-anxiety meds just to be able to get the obsessive behavior under management.

Been my experience too the one's we had were spastic and definitely full of life . I wouldn't bad talk any body's dog though I have seen some bad in both shepherds and mallinois

-Dusty-

[Murgatroy]

I have a Lab Mix, all the training in the world wouldn't do her any good, she would revert to licking someone to death.

 

She will bark like mad though.

[Patton]

I think most handlers would prefer a Shepard over the Belgium Mallinois but from all the reports I am hearing the Mallinois will give you several more years of good health and service. Or is the just false information?

[Wingshooter]

If he's not sleeping, my redbone coonhound will give an "aggressive" (but playful) welcome to anyone that shows up. He will bark his head off if his big ears or nose detects something going on outside. Not much of a protector though.

[DixieDawg]

I think most handlers would prefer a Shepard over the Belgium Mallinois but from all the reports I am hearing the Mallinois will give you several more years of good health and service. Or is the just false information?

The malinois does tend to have more years of service if from reputable breeders however like most large breeds hip displasia is a problem and they can be prone to cataracts, cancer, and luxating patella issues a lot of health issues however in any dog breed can be ruled out if bred properly

-Dusty-

[TMF]

I think most handlers would prefer a Shepard over the Belgium Mallinois but from all the reports I am hearing the Mallinois will give you several more years of good health and service. Or is the just false information?

 

Personally, I much preferred working a Mal over a Shepherd.  They are such high energy dogs and driven animals that working them is a breeze.  If you get a good one, their behavior is so intuitive that it seems they require little guidance.  There is a drawback though.  When they aren't being worked they develop severe anxiety issues.  Yeah, all dogs do to some extent, but I've never seen anything like this.  Severe anxiety accompanied with high intelligence and energy is a horrible mix.  Throw in two small children and a couple other dogs and you now have your own madhouse.

 

If I were to have a dog simply for protection and the occasional agility/obedience competition, I'd take a Shepherd all day.  Then again, there is a sense of comfort I get knowing I have a malligator in the house and on the clock.  If someone breaks in, they won't be leaving with all their body parts.

[DixieDawg]

Personally, I much preferred working a Mal over a Shepherd. They are such high energy dogs and driven animals that working them is a breeze. If you get a good one, their behavior is so intuitive that it seems they require little guidance. There is a drawback though. When they aren't being worked they develop severe anxiety issues. Yeah, all dogs do to some extent, but I've never seen anything like this. Severe anxiety accompanied with high intelligence and energy is a horrible mix. Throw in two small children and a couple other dogs and you now have your own madhouse.

If I were to have a dog simply for protection and the occasional agility/obedience competition, I'd take a Shepherd all day. Then again, there is a sense of comfort I get knowing I have a malligator in the house and on the clock. If someone breaks in, they won't be leaving with all their body parts.

Like I said not faulting any "Malligator"
They are great dogs

-Dusty-

[peejman]

My hound of the baskervilles will bark ferociously while running the other way.   Actually, she tends to hover just out of reach while barking.  I've seen her snap aggressively when challenged by strangers.  The annoying part is she won't stop barking. 

[Dustbuster]

Ultra sensitive hearing,feels vibrations, scratches on owner for alerts, easy to lift into tight places, won't respond to anyone but his owner. Low cost to feed and own.

[DixieDawg]

Ultra sensitive hearing,feels vibrations, scratches on owner for alerts, easy to lift into tight places, won't respond to anyone but his owner. Low cost to feed and own.

Wife has one of those little ankle biters good dog just a little annoying

-Dusty-

[bersaguy]

I have a mix mutt and when she was younger she was very aggressive and a biter if not called off but has mellowed out over the last 16 years and now barks but no threats toward folks anymore.

[Trekbike]

Personally, I much preferred working a Mal over a Shepherd.  They are such high energy dogs and driven animals that working them is a breeze.  If you get a good one, their behavior is so intuitive that it seems they require little guidance.  There is a drawback though.  When they aren't being worked they develop severe anxiety issues.  Yeah, all dogs do to some extent, but I've never seen anything like this.  Severe anxiety accompanied with high intelligence and energy is a horrible mix.  Throw in two small children and a couple other dogs and you now have your own madhouse.

 

If I were to have a dog simply for protection and the occasional agility/obedience competition, I'd take a Shepherd all day.  Then again, there is a sense of comfort I get knowing I have a malligator in the house and on the clock.  If someone breaks in, they won't be leaving with all their body parts.

 

Your comments shed some insight into a recent experience of mine.   We have fostered rescued dogs before and a couple of weeks ago we agreed to foster a senior Mallinois mix (about 8-10ish).  It was our first experience with this breed of dog and it did present some challenges.   She was a very loving dog that loved to be petted continually but showed some of the tendencies you mentioned.   We were torn and discussed keeping her but there was too much turmoil with our other two permanent dogs.   

 

She is now in process of being adopted by a family that has another senior Mallinois.    We are hoping that all goes well with her new home.  

[Dustbuster]

Lol he can't even bit ankles at 3.5 lbs... But he's sensitive to air, audio, and scent. His 2nd duty at home is stealing treats from the other 2 dogs...and he's good at it hahaha. Bad thing is he doesn't like guns or anything that pops. Great k9 though

[Wingshooter]

My hound of the baskervilles will bark ferociously while running the other way.   Actually, she tends to hover just out of reach while barking.  I've seen her snap aggressively when challenged by strangers.  The annoying part is she won't stop barking. 

 

Pretty much describes my hound, too.

[DWARREN123]

Mine would trip someone up by laying down to have his belly rubbed. He will alert to anything going on on the property.

[hipower]

I have a Lab Mix, all the training in the world wouldn't do her any good, she would revert to licking someone to death.

 

She will bark like mad though.

 

Sounds like my Heeler mix. She might lick someone to death, or deafen you with her bark; but takes a great deal for her to even get aggressive. I think she'd give a burglar my safe combo and then go home with him.

[glowdotGlock]

This is my little hell raiser. She does let me know if there are any noises in the middle of the night.

[Dolomite_supafly]

We have two dogs that are part of our home protection plan, Lilly and Gus. And that is the remnants of an aggressive soccer ball that needed to be attacked. 

 

First is Gus. He is an Alapaha Blue Blood bulldog. It is a rare breed and I would wager the vast majority of people have not heard of them. They are protective and loyal dogs. Gus has some basic German commands down and will act aggressive on command. I have zero doubt that if we need to be protected he will go head long into harms way to protect us. He will be getting some more advanced training when it cools down some.

 

Although Gus looks like an English bulldog there are some significant differences. First he does not have the breathing issues the English does, his teeth are much more aligned than an English, he is taller as well as being faster on his feet than an English and finally he us much bigger. In this picture he is ~10 months old and 90+ pounds.

 

I know the date in the picture is a bit off but it was taken

 

 

 

And here is Lilly. She is an a-typical pitbull. She is loving, not aggressive towards other dogs and wants loved more than anything else. She listens very well and even though we have not worked with her there is no doubt she would protect us. But most times all she wants to do is get hugs and kisses from anyone, including guests.