Welp...It is now here folks...ebola

[Someotherguy]

I've been waiting for this one...The cdc has confirmed a case of the Ebola virus in Dallas tx...

 

 

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/09/29/dallas-presbyterian-hospital-ebola-patient-isolation/16460629/

 

[broox]

I try not to be an alarmist chicken little type guy, but this is kind of a big deal.

Or is it? I am not that knowledgeable about how this disease spreads.

Edited September 30, 2014 by broox

[Omega]

Unfortunately it was bound to happen, with all the airlines refusing to stop flight in and out of the infected area it was only a matter of time.  I wonder if they have notified the rest of the passengers on his flight home?

[luvmyberetta]

Surely not! I thought that bringing in ebola patients from Africa here to the U.S. was suppost to keep us safe. Oh, yeah. That's right. It won't! Bringing the ebola virus into the U.S. is a bad thing...& I don't even have a medical degree. Who do I tell, "I told you so" to?

[Garufa]

Unfortunately it was bound to happen, with all the airlines refusing to stop flight in and out of the infected area it was only a matter of time.  I wonder if they have notified the rest of the passengers on his flight home?

 

It could have easily been avoided.

[Oh Shoot]

Surely not! I thought that bringing in ebola patients from Africa here to the U.S. was suppost to keep us safe. Oh, yeah. That's right. It won't! Bringing the ebola virus into the U.S. is a bad thing...& I don't even have a medical degree. Who do I tell, "I told you so" to?

 

Bringing the previous patients in had nothing to do with this fellow.  He flew it in himself.

 

- OS

[monkeylizard]

[R_Bert]

I try not to be an alarmist chicken little type guy, but this is kind of a big deal.

Or is it? I am not that knowledgeable about how this disease spreads.

 

It's a bigger deal on US soil than ISIS (or ISIS wanabes).  The US hospitals will contain it within their buildings, but the public contact these patients have *before* hospitalization... is uncontainable. Airports are already cesspools.  They are not equipped to deal with preventing this.

Edited September 30, 2014 by R_Bert

[Garufa]

Airports are already cesspools.

 

Airplanes are bigger cesspools.  I've always felt nasty getting off of one.

 

Unless this dude rowed a boat to Dallas there will be many, many others.

[mikegideon]

Bringing the previous patients in had nothing to do with this fellow.  He flew it in himself.

 

- OS

 

He should have flown to DC. That place needs to be thinned out.

[Oh Shoot]

Airplanes are bigger cesspools.  I've always felt nasty getting off of one.

 

Unless this dude rowed a boat to Dallas there will be many, many others.

 

Since not airborne, not likely. Also not demonstrated that an asymptomatic carrier is infectious period.

 

- OS

[R_Bert]

Airplanes are bigger cesspools.  I've always felt nasty getting off of one.

 

Unless this dude rowed a boat to Dallas there will be many, many others.

 

 

Since not airborne, not likely. Also not demonstrated that an asymptomatic carrier is infectious period.

 

- OS

 

Not thinking air vector - more like surface contact.  handles, rails, shaking hands, airport lounges, food court tables & chairs, etc.

 

And I agree.  Handi-wipes are a must on air-travel.  Lots of snot slinging & other fluids.

 

OS - there has to be a small period between symptomatic and admittance to the health care facility.  With increasing population picking that up, the probabilities of infected-travel, and deposition will only increase. I routinely took trips where I spent 30-36 hours in airports & planes.  And I know I passed off a few bugs, as well as picked them up, several time felt fine on embarking, and feverous on arrival.

Edited September 30, 2014 by R_Bert

[Garufa]

Since not airborne, not likely. Also not demonstrated that an asymptomatic carrier is infectious period.

 

- OS

 

We'll see.  The guvment and other assorted ninnies have introduced a new term into our lexicon: "abundance of caution".  This is the one time I agree with it and wish those who espouse it would embrace it.

[Dennis1209]

With our dependency on a global economy and goods / people entering the country, open boarders, work permits, visa's, international travel, the speed of airlines today compared to sail boats of yesteryear...  There's no doubt history will repeat itself and one day a disease will spread like a wild fire. There's no possibility of isolating / quarantining an infectious pandemic or plague because unsuspecting infected people will want to and will try to escape the area despite best efforts and will be undetected, that's just common sense.

 

Here's the doom and gloom! Despite the best efforts of the CDC and World Health Organization, they are powerless to stop / quarantine or prepare a vaccination for the population in time before it's out of control. That's not even considering the mutation of the disease. No matter how advanced our medical science becomes, we will never be capable of stopping plague and pestilence.

 

I would think when a pandemic strikes U.S. again, the best chance of surviving would be TOTAL isolation and a disconnect until it runs its course. That would include not touching or eating anything from the outside; animals, touching money or mail or in close contact with ANY person. Of course that would mean being totally self sufficient and have stores of supplies for a minimum of at least a year.

 

Gentleman, history is loaded with pestilence and plaque epidemics that caused millions of deaths. What makes U.S. think we are not susceptible to them in this modern age? The only difference today is the speed in which it will spread.

[Grand Torino]

I'm sure Obamacare will handle it....

[Garufa]

I'm sure Obamacare will handle it....

 

Make me wonder...what's the insurance cap on Ebola treatment?

[bersaguy]

I knew when they first talked about it and they said we had doctors over there trying to treat people with it that they would bring it or send it back to America. Just another case of sticking our Government nose in another Cesspool to threaten our very existence and if having 300,000 raving lunatics wanting to kill us already our Government is doing their damnest  to help them. I wonder if those idiots in Washington DC realize that they are not immune to this and no they are not Superman either..............jmho

[Oh Shoot]

I knew when they first talked about it and they said we had doctors over there trying to treat people with it that they would bring it or send it back to America.

 

Again, this had nothing to do with any of that. Sounds like guy probably isn't even American, was just coming to visit relatives here.

 

- OS

Edited September 30, 2014 by Oh Shoot

[vontar]

Yup, it wasn't wild in America but the day is getting closer and closer.

[leroy]

Look at it from Obama's perspective.... "Whitey needs this"; he aint suffered enough...

 

leroy

[bersaguy]

Look at it from Obama's perspective.... "Whitey needs this"; he aint suffered enough...

 

leroy

Well, if you look where out breaks are of the disease it's not exactly white neighborhoods over there where it is doing the most killing so I don't really believe the race card is in play here. It's not a disease that is discriminating. It is killing all races that come in contact with it.................jmho

[Sam1]

He's not infected with ebola, because according to OS, contracting ebola is more complicated that solving a rubik's cube on LSD while handcuffed.

 

We keep hearing "it's not contagious, it's not airborne, it's extremely difficult to contract it and can only be done by sharing body fluids"  but they won't be specific.. Does body fluids mean blood only, mucus, saliva, tears, sweat... wtf does it mean already?  Because way too many people are contracting this shit for them to say it's only as contagious as HIV.

[leroy]

 

 

....I don't really believe the race card is in play here. ....

 

Lighten up bersa... It was an attempt at humor... It musta not worked on you...

 

leroy

[tnhawk]

Any good golf courses over in africa?  The president might be able to get a few games over there while they work on securing the White House.

[300winmag]

It is crazy that the feds did not stop flights coming from or to that part of the world.  It is also crazy that the feds did not quarantine people at customs for the flights that did come in.