Traveling by car from TN to NJ for an outing

[docachna]

Some would condone locking the weapon in a concealed container in the trunk, and locking the ammo in a second concealed container in the trunk. They would not permit a search of their vehicle, and if ordered out in a NJ, MD, etc., would lock the doors with the remote, and pocket the keys, and if LEO tried to search the car, would repeat "You do NOT have permission to search my vehicle" for the benefit of the dash-cam (and the pocket recorder that they would have running as well). This way, in the event of a breakdown or other catastrophic occurrence, they at least have the option of the "judged by 12 is better than carried by 6" rationale. Tossing a car interior on the roadside is one thing; going into the trunk is yet another; breaking into a locked container without REALLY strong probable cause is quite another. Can they do it ? Sure. Will they push it that far ? Probably not very often, unless you have been deliberately pi$$ing them off....

 

Some would do that. Some would find a friendly FFL dealer near the state line and store it with them until they exit the Criminal Protection Hellhole. Some would leave it home altogether. YMMV.

 

And, BTW - I'm with the guy above about IL. My brother wants to know why I don't visit him. That's why.

Edited October 31, 2014 by docachna

[Oh Shoot]

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And, BTW - I'm with the guy above about IL. My brother wants to know why I don't visit him. That's why.

 

Illinois has changed, ya know:

 

 

"Non Residents are allowed to transport a
concealed firearm within their vehicle without
a permit, provided they have a valid out-of-
state permit. If the vehicle is left unattended,
the firearm must either be in a locked
container or the vehicle must be locked."

 

- OS

[4Freedom]

My TN gun permit is not recognized in NJ.  Can I travel there if my handgun is empty and locked in a box in the trunk? 

 

The outing will require a hotel stay for two nights.

Not sure where you are going in New Jersey.. But can I suggest you stay in neighboring Pennsylvania where gun laws are much more sane (as good as many other pro-2A states)?    Depending on where you go in New Jersey, you can stay in a hotel in Pennsylvania, leave your guns in your room and then travel to New Jersey..     New Jersey is a small enough state where you can practically stay anywhere on the PA border and be anywhere in New Jersey within an hour or less.  If I was visiting New Jersey, for some odd reason, that is what I would do..   I'd carry a baseball bat with me when I am actually going into New Jersey.. Last I checked, baseball was not yet criminalized there, although  I wouldn't put it past them to make people start registering their baseball bats soon, as well.

 

Just a suggestion.. If that's not an option, then I would heed the advice of other posters here.

Edited November 1, 2014 by 4Freedom

[Oh Shoot]

.... Last I checked, baseball was not yet criminalized there,....

 

I dunno. Toting a "club" probably ain't legal there. It ain't even here.

 

- OS

Edited November 1, 2014 by Oh Shoot

[4Freedom]

I dunno. Toting a "club" probably ain't legal there. It ain't even here.

 

- OS

 

I wasn't talking about toting around the baseball bat while on foot, but rather just keeping it in the car.  Hey, it's better than nothing?  I would assume that carrying a baseball bat in your car isn't illegal there, although who knows anymore?     

 

Yeah, I know in New Jersey, dialing 9-1-1 is probably your only means of defense..   At least it will give the police a heads up of where your body will be, so your family won't have to wait as long to find out what happened.

 

I wonder if dog pepper spray is legal there, like it is in Canada?    Despite Canada's strict weapon laws and prohibition on "human" pepper spray, there was some quirks in the laws that allowed me to carry pepper spray and a big knife.   In Canada you can carry any size blade as long as the clip is outside your pocket or its in a case/holster that is exposed on the outside of your pants.  I'm not sure if New Jersey has any such work-around of its draconian laws as Canada does.
 

Edited November 1, 2014 by 4Freedom

[Oh Shoot]

I wasn't talking about toting around the baseball bat while on foot, but rather just keeping it in the car. ...

 

That was my point too. A baseball bat in front seat even here could conceivably get you charged. Seriously. Not really likely, but possible under the statutes.

 

Who knows about Joisey. At least you need to keep a ball and a couple of gloves with it as possible out.

 

Here though, you can now have a machete or sword in your car. Or even walk about with one!

 

- OS

Edited November 1, 2014 by Oh Shoot

[NextExit]

Illinois has changed, ya know:

 

 

"Non Residents are allowed to transport a
concealed firearm within their vehicle without
a permit, provided they have a valid out-of-
state permit. If the vehicle is left unattended,
the firearm must either be in a locked
container or the vehicle must be locked."

 

- OS

Does that apply if you're "just passing thru" or staying for a visit / vacation?

[Oh Shoot]

Does that apply if you're "just passing thru" or staying for a visit / vacation?

 

Either/both.

 

Text from law itself:

 

From PUBLIC SAFETY
(430 ILCS 66/) Firearm Concealed Carry Act.

(e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:
        (1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law;
        (2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence, as evidenced by the possession of a concealed carry license or permit issued by his or her state of residence, if applicable; and
        (3) is not in possession of a license under this Act.
    If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle in accordance with subsection ( b ) of Section 65 of this Act.
(Source: P.A. 98-63, eff. 7-9-13; 98-600, eff. 12-6-13.)

 

- OS