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Posted

My TN gun permit is not recognized in NJ.  Can I travel there if my handgun is empty and locked in a box in the trunk? 

 

The outing will require a hotel stay for two nights.

 

 

Posted

I can't give you definitive answer
 
 
And note that 18 U.S. Code § 926A ("safe passage" part of FOPA) does not apply in OP's visit.
 
- OS

Definitely, since he is actually staying there at least overnight not straight through but the first part says INTO. There are links there to the actual U.S Code though.
http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/about/fire_ag2.html
Posted

Definitely, since he is actually staying there at least overnight not straight through but the first part says INTO. There are links there to the actual U.S Code though.
http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/about/fire_ag2.html

 

Well, that's state code, not US, but yeah, it's the effective determiner.

 

I find the statement regarding the state law "and in the course of travel, shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances" as being ambivalent enough to be paranoia inducing.

 

Also there are the finer points of possessing hi-cap mags and/or hollow point ammo to consider.

 

- OS

Posted

Well, that's state code, not US, but yeah, it's the effective determiner.
 
I find the statement regarding the state law "and in the course of travel, shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances" as being ambivalent enough to be paranoia inducing.
 
Also there are the finer points of possessing hi-cap mags and/or hollow point ammo to consider.
 
- OS

Yup, not U.S code. They sure make gun owners feel welcome to their state, I think I would rethink my travel plans if I had anything to visit there for.
Posted

I would only travel to that state or other states with stupid gun laws for a life and death situation and the death part might be questionable since if they are already dead I could send flowers..........jmho

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Posted
I drove my son up to visit a university back during the summer. I left everything at home. I didn't want to take any chances with their stupid laws.
Posted

I drove my son up to visit a university back during the summer. I left everything at home. I didn't want to take any chances with their stupid laws.

This or do not go.

Posted

FYI: if you travel through MD they do not recognize your permit.  It is against the law in MD to carry anything that can be used as a weapon, this includes a knife, granted this is only enforced when they are after you for something else.  If you do take a firearm my suggestion is stop before entering MD and/or NJ and lock the firearm unloaded in one container and the ammo in another container and put both containers in your trunk or as far as possible from the front seat, certainly out of reach of the front seat.  Generally this is acceptable in most anti gun states. But the best advise as others have indicated is to do your research before traveling.

Posted

take your trip and use other tools as weapons.  Do not go to NJ with a freaking gun! 

 

You are equipped with common sense, or this thread would not be here.  Use that.  Situational awareness,  use that.  Head on a swivel, use that.

 

Don't take a gun.  Life is not always about having a gun.

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Posted

AFAIK, what peejman said is correct. You need a NJ license of some kind to possess a firearm. As OS said, the federal safe passage act won't apply since you're not just passing through.

 

Leave them at home or don't go.

Posted
I was just up in New Jersey a couple months ago. I didn't even take a utility knife for fear of their stupid laws. I made sure not to be out after dark. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Posted

You are crazy to go to a place like that... why not take a trip to the middle east instead?

 

You can get thrown in prison in NJ just for being in possession of hollow point rounds, let-a-lone a gun.  Do not bring guns into MD or NJ unless you want to take a huge chance of being charged with a felony and lose your freedom for a while, as well as your gun and voting rights in all 50 states forever.

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Posted

When I make my trips to Canada, I leave my handguns with relatives in Michigan or WV and pick them up on the way out.

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Posted (edited)

Although Federal law states you CAN transit through any state with certain restrictions, remember that if you are stopped and they find a weapon of any kind on you, it will be the STATE or local police who stop you.  They will enforce STATE, not FEDERAL regulations, so you may find yourself in jail for a few days and lose your handgun permanently.  You can then hire an attorney ($$$$$) to defend you in the STATE court by arguing (probably successfully) that FEDERAL regulations prevail.  Hooray, you won -- and you only spent 72 hours in a New Jersey jail, didn't get to the event you went to the State for, and lost your $500 handgun.  Just leave the gun at home or don't go at all.

Edited by Tri-Cities Bob
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Posted (edited)

States you CAN what?

 

The federal Safe Passage Act applies to transporting firearms from one place where they're OK to another place where they're OK and passing through a place where they're not OK. The OP is not passing through NJ. He's staying there. Federal SPA does not apply.

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Posted

Does your vehicle have a TN plate and maybe a NRA decal or some gun related sticker? I just have a feeling if it does you might as well put a big sign on it that says, "PULL ME OVER PLEASE?" AND,,, if you actually had any sort of firearm in any sort of storage in the vehicle N.J. cops would treat it like a big celebration party with you face down on the ground and handcuffed. That would "MAKE THEIR DAY".

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[quote name="K191145" post="1189253" timestamp="1410572013"]Does your vehicle have a TN plate and maybe a NRA decal or some gun related sticker? I just have a feeling if it does you might as well put a big sign on it that says, "PULL ME OVER PLEASE?" AND,,, if you actually had any sort of firearm in any sort of storage in the vehicle N.J. cops would treat it like a big celebration party with you face down on the ground and handcuffed. That would "MAKE THEIR DAY".[/quote] From first hand knowledge, they will pull you over and treat you like crap there if you are from out of state. They have these stupid things called jughandles which are the solution for not having left turns. Well, being from out of state, I was looking for the break in the median to make a left turn. Cop pulled me over for being in the left lane and acted like a child, cursing and carrying on; first thing he said as he approached my car: "What the f*** is your problem?" Only thing that calmed him down, and probably kept my car from being tossed, was my mil ID. I hate New Jersey. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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From first hand knowledge, they will pull you over and treat you like crap there if you are from out of state. They have these stupid things called jughandles which are the solution for not having left turns. Well, being from out of state, I was looking for the break in the median to make a left turn. Cop pulled me over for being in the left lane and acted like a child, cursing and carrying on; first thing he said as he approached my car: "What the f*** is your problem?" Only thing that calmed him down, and probably kept my car from being tossed, was my mil ID. I hate New Jersey. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

Yea, I would probably go to jail there. Someone dis-respects me unjustly i'll return the dis-respect no matter who it is.

Posted (edited)

But hey, here's some good news. Obviously it's not a big deal in New Jersey if your wife or girlfriend annoys you and you decide to punch her out like some punk thug, just don't be a law abiding mom who made a "DUMB" but honest mistake and bring a gun into the state.

 

http://www.inquisitr.com/1471690/prosecutor-who-let-ray-rice-off-the-hook-demands-jail-time-for-single-mom-licensed-gun-owner/

 

 

The New Jersey prosecutor who allowed Ray Rice to enter a pre-trial intervention program to avoid jail time won’t do the same for licensed gun owner Shaneen Allen who faces a minimum of three years behind bars.

Edited by K191145
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Nothing is important enough to get me across the NJ state line in the past, present or future.

Edited by tnhawk
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Posted
Yeah, I have to trek 30 miles through md on my way to pa. Debating on carrying or not. Should be able to lock my pistol up in the trunk in wva, and pass through. But not sure it's worth the risk.

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