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Looks like the Brits are going to get a whack at an AR15.... Kinda


Luke E.

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I'm sure they'll institute a law stating that the bolt must be manually opened and close or se other foolishness. I hope it doesn't give our idiots in Washington any silly ideas.
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I guess it may well hinge on how easily it is converted to full semi-auto. If it's just catching the bolt on the way back, I'm sure it won't be long before it's made illegal one way or another.
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I guess it may well hinge on how easily it is converted to full semi-auto. If it's just catching the bolt on the way back, I'm sure it won't be long before it's made illegal one way or another.

 

That's what I figure.  Can't be too hard to convert to "semi-auto".  Oh, quelle horreur!  Yeah, they'll wet their panties and add it to the ban list.  

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Oh, that'll last for about 30 seconds...if it ever gets to market.

 

Shame what England's turned into.

 

On another topic, do you guys remember the pump action AR that someone marketed during the AWB years?  Had all the evil features, but was pump operated?

 

Well, couldn't find the original, but it looks like Troy is going to make one.

 

http://gunssavelives.net/gear/another-gun-control-state-compliant-ar-15-this-time-in-pump-action/

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That's what I figure. Can't be too hard to convert to "semi-auto". Oh, quelle horreur! Yeah, they'll wet their panties and add it to the ban list.


I'm pretty sure it's not simply like our "empty mag" bolt catch that's been rigged to catch the bolt after each round. It's something back where the disconnect is in our FCG but if I was a betting man my money would be that it's on some kind of ratcheting mechanism that allows it to catch between each shot no matter what you do.
Now if your talking about it being easy to just switch parts and make it semi auto then you're probably correct but tits also easy enough for us to convert ours to full auto by switching out or adding a few parts. Where there's a will there's a way I reckon.
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but its also easy enough for us to convert ours to full auto by switching out or adding a few parts.

 

 

True but you fail to grasp the depth of the anti-gun dementia in the UK. It's not just a belief, it's become embedded in the culture. I know of a few pro-gun Brits but for the most part, it's not even something that's given any more thought than the sky being blue (or rather cloudy gray) and water being wet.

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True but you fail to grasp the depth of the anti-gun dementia in the UK. It's not just a belief, it's become embedded in the culture. I know of a few pro-gun Brits but for the most part, it's not even something that's given any more thought than the sky being blue (or rather cloudy gray) and water being wet.


My father in law is British and I have a couple friends that are British as well and have never lived anywhere else. I completely understand their thoughts (or lack thereof) about guns. My father in law isn't "against" guns in any way but he's a bit awkward any time he's around mine.
I wasn't implying that they wouldn't change or add laws because of this rifle design but I'm not so sure that it would be because of ease of conversion. They don't have to have any excuse or reason because the people just bend over and take it (like all good subjects should, I guess).
My brother in law is Irish so I sent this to him and he said they probably still wouldn't be allowed to own it. They have to go before chief leo and ask for permission and give a reason for NEEDING to own it. This is of course after paying for the firearm in full and when the chief denies your permit you DONT get any of your money back. Because of this he thinks that most folks would be scared to risk the money because they are very open about it having nothing to do with the rifles capabilities and everything to do with it's appearance. If I remember correctly he told me that there was only 1 privately opened pistol in the country that was over .22lr in caliber. However they can go to the store and walk out with a suppressor without signing anything more than a credit card receipt.
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I guess it may well hinge on how easily it is converted to full semi-auto. If it's just catching the bolt on the way back, I'm sure it won't be long before it's made illegal one way or another.

Exactly what I was thinking!

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My father in law is British and I have a couple friends that are British as well and have never lived anywhere else. I completely understand their thoughts (or lack thereof) about guns. My father in law isn't "against" guns in any way but he's a bit awkward any time he's around mine.
I wasn't implying that they wouldn't change or add laws because of this rifle design but I'm not so sure that it would be because of ease of conversion. They don't have to have any excuse or reason because the people just bend over and take it (like all good subjects should, I guess).
My brother in law is Irish so I sent this to him and he said they probably still wouldn't be allowed to own it. They have to go before chief leo and ask for permission and give a reason for NEEDING to own it. This is of course after paying for the firearm in full and when the chief denies your permit you DONT get any of your money back. Because of this he thinks that most folks would be scared to risk the money because they are very open about it having nothing to do with the rifles capabilities and everything to do with it's appearance. If I remember correctly he told me that there was only 1 privately opened pistol in the country that was over .22lr in caliber. However they can go to the store and walk out with a suppressor without signing anything more than a credit card receipt.

 

 

True that it doesn't need public support but having a citizenry and media that can be guaranteed to show the appropriate level of knee-jerk outrage goes a long way.

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