A Marines point of view

[bersaguy]

To the moderators:      If this belongs in Hive please move it

 

 

Written by a USMC Vet. (I can't argue with any of it. Passing it along as it was received.)
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>>He wrote:
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>>The American Dream ended (on November 6th, 2012) in Ohio. The second term of Barack Obama will be the final nail in the coffin for the legacy of the white Christian males who discovered, explored, pioneered, settled and developed the greatest Republic in the history of mankind.
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>>A coalition of Blacks, Latinos, Feminists, Gays, Government Workers, Union Members, Environmental Extremists, The Media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the "forever needy," the chronically unemployed, illegal aliens and other "fellow travelers" have ended Norman Rockwell's America.
>>The Cocker Spaniel is off the front porch... The Pit Bull is in the back yard. The American Constitution has been replaced with Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" and Chicago shyster, David Axelrod, along with international Socialist George Soros will be pulling the strings on their beige puppet to bring us Act 2 of the New World Order.
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>>Our side ran two candidates who couldn't even win their own home states, and Chris Christie helped Obama over the top with a glowing "post Sandy" tribute that elevated the "Commander-in-Chief" to Mother Teresa status. (Aside: with the way the polls were run, he didn't need any help!)
>>People like me are completely politically irrelevant, and I will never again comment on or concern myself with the aforementioned coalition which has surrendered our culture, our heritage and our traditions without a shot being fired.
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>>You will never again out-vote these people. It will take individual acts of defiance and massive displays of civil disobedience to get back the rights we have allowed them to take away. It will take Zealots, not moderates & shy not reach-across-the-aisle RINOs to right this ship and restore our beloved country to its former status.
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>>Those who come after us will have to risk their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to bring back the Republic that this generation has timidly frittered away due to "white guilt" and political correctness... An American Veteran......... Semper-Fi
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>>Got the guts to pass it on?
>>You betcha!!!!!

[btq96r]

The second term of Barack Obama will be the final nail in the coffin for the legacy of the white Christian males who discovered, explored, pioneered, settled and developed the greatest Republic in the history of mankind.

 
The Cocker Spaniel is off the front porch... The Pit Bull is in the back yard. The American Constitution has been replaced with Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" and Chicago shyster, David Axelrod, along with international Socialist George Soros will be pulling the strings on their beige puppet to bring us Act 2 of the New World Order.

 

Using not so subtle racist language like that is about the fastest way to get ignored and ridiculed in my book.  It tends to show the authors true colors.

 

The poor white Christian males will be just fine. White trash can put a pit bull in the backyard just as easily as any other race can.  But hey, why not assoicate it with the political assention of minorities to keep people outraged. :rolleyes:  

Edited August 4, 2014 by btq96r

[bersaguy]

Using not so subtle racist language like that is about the fastest way to get ignored and ridiculed in my book.  It tends to show the authors true colors.

 

The poor white Christian males will be just fine. White trash can put a pit bull in the backyard just as easily as any other race can.  But hey, why not assoicate it with the political assention of minorities to keep people outraged. :rolleyes:  

I didn't say I agreed with all of his points of view but was not going to edit it to suit my beliefs or to satisfy those of others. He was expressing his views......... :up:  

[Links2k]

Sounds like the "Pity Party" that so many others are always accused of having. I agree with the previous member. The poor white male will be fine.

[TrickyNicky]

Yeah, he lost me here: ">>A coalition of Blacks, Latinos, Feminists, Gays, Government Workers, Union Members, Environmental Extremists, The Media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the "forever needy," the chronically unemployed, illegal aliens and other "fellow travelers" have ended Norman Rockwell's America."

Like Bersa, I think there are some good points here, but the underlying theme here seem to be IMHO "Things aren't the way they once were. I want things to be the way they once were." I'd agree that there are a lot of things these days I'm not so crazy about, but the idea of wanting to plunge us all back as a society into the 40's - early 60's seems really stupid to me.

I also can't help but wonder about these messages when I get them. It strikes me funny that so many people in their 50's and 60's want to go back to the way things were in the 50's and 60's. I think there's a lot of folks this age wearing their rose colored glasses looking back at those years. One thing to keep in mind while reminiscing, if you were a child in a given decade, odds are strong you're not remembering all there was to it. Case in point, I look back fondly at the mid-1980's as a simpler, safer time where kids could play in the streets unsupervised till past dark, there wasn't so much crap in our food, people were nicer, air was cleaner, etc.

It's all about perspective.




I'd also invite the author to spend some time outside of a city more often. Little bits of the Norman Rockwell American dream are still spread out all over this country.

[bersaguy]

Yeah, he lost me here: ">>A coalition of Blacks, Latinos, Feminists, Gays, Government Workers, Union Members, Environmental Extremists, The Media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the "forever needy," the chronically unemployed, illegal aliens and other "fellow travelers" have ended Norman Rockwell's America."

Like Bersa, I think there are some good points here, but the underlying theme here seem to be IMHO "Things aren't the way they once were. I want things to be the way they once were." I'd agree that there are a lot of things these days I'm not so crazy about, but the idea of wanting to plunge us all back as a society into the 40's - early 60's seems really stupid to me.

I also can't help but wonder about these messages when I get them. It strikes me funny that so many people in their 50's and 60's want to go back to the way things were in the 50's and 60's. I think there's a lot of folks this age wearing their rose colored glasses looking back at those years. One thing to keep in mind while reminiscing, if you were a child in a given decade, odds are strong you're not remembering all there was to it. Case in point, I look back fondly at the mid-1980's as a simpler, safer time where kids could play in the streets unsupervised till past dark, there wasn't so much crap in our food, people were nicer, air was cleaner, etc.

It's all about perspective.




I'd also invite the author to spend some time outside of a city more often. Little bits of the Norman Rockwell American dream are still spread out all over this country.

I do agree with most of what you said Nicky. I grew up in the 50's 60s and 70's and yea, they were some good times but I don't want to go back to them. I have my memories of them and that is good enough for me. What bothers me way more is what I see happening in  the country I so dearly love that my Children and grand children will have to grow up in that really bothers me. I don't want them to grow up in the lifestyles I did but I want them to have a chance and the gold ring like we all had back 60 years ago. Have a dream of actually owning a house and having a family and being able to provide for them because there are jobs out there for them. This administration has done really nothing to improve what they had when they took office almost 7 years ago but yet they like to talk like they have done so much but yet no one really sees a lot they have done for the good but can see a lot of damage they have done....................jmho

[Mike A]

To paraphrase a lot of what Nick says, the "good old days" were back before you had adult responsibilities and problems.  Ask your parents if you're fortunate enough to have one or both living.  I bet your "good old days" weren't theirs because they were busy worrying about buying groceries, paying the mortgage and raising you.

 

There are things I miss and things I wish weren't the way they are and as such I long for different times on occasion.  I think it's just part of the aging process.  At the same time, I think it best to be careful when talking with younger folks to not always be negative with them about the state of the world.  In doing so, you may be taking away their "good old days."   

[btq96r]

I didn't say I agreed with all of his points of view but was not going to edit it to suit my beliefs or to satisfy those of others. He was expressing his views......... :up:  

 

You forwarded (or in this case posted) it with no commentary, as a stand alone work, so that can make people assume you agree with it.  Silence equals consent. 

 

If you didn't agree with all of his points, you could have pointed out disagreements and counterpoints before or after it without any edits. 

 

This is the danger with chain emails and the like. The echo chamber effect and the ease of using the forward, like or share button have stopped people from looking at the whole body of work and asking themselves, "do I agree with the sentiment and tone of all this?" 

 

Conservatives have plenty of actual issues to disagree on the President with.  I'll respect those disagreements even as I argue against some of them.  But when anybody tries to disguise in racist jabs that are little better than dog whistles, I'm going to call BS every time.

 

...the "good old days" were back before you had adult responsibilities and problems.

 

No kidding.  My cousin and I were texting about those adult responsibilities and problems we have now and I fondly reminisced, "Remember when all we needed to pay for ourselves, were the beer and liquor we weren't supposed to be drinking?"

Edited August 4, 2014 by btq96r

[Fourtyfive]

Sugar coat it or whatever , this country is going to Hell in a hand basket. If you don't think we were better off 30 years ago your crazy.

[Links2k]

Sugar coat it or whatever , this country is going to Hell in a hand basket. If you don't think we were better off 30 years ago your crazy.

I guess that it depends on ones circumstances thirty years ago, so talley one up for the group of crazies.

[broox]

Ecclesiastes 1:9-11

What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

Is there anything of which one can say "Look! This is something new"?

It was here already, long ago;it was here before our time.

There is no remembrance of men of old, and even those who are yet to come

Will not be remembered by those who follow.

[Lowpower]

Many people one these forums were barely born 30 years ago. 

 

The old saying of those who fail to remember the past are doomed to repeat it is still true today but you can add if the gov't prevents students from learning the 

true past then they will also be doomed to repeat it.  

 

Answer a question...if you were born a minority in the past 30 years what have you been taught about your position in life by your parents? 

Answer another question.. has ebonics actually helped anyone?

Answer a last question..... the illegal aliens stream across our southern borders and live amongst us whether we like it or not but how many people will go out and 

do the work they do? Concrete, roofing, landscaping, picking strawberries, beans and tomatoes, etc. I have seen very few minorities work in those fields. Why, are

they too good to do that? Without any education that is offered to every American? You get an education you get an better job. It's pretty simple.  

 

The reason American was originally set up as a Republic was because our forefathers wanted people to strive for themselves and our Country. If you worked you voted. 

Reason? If your have no motivation and can vote yourself money then why work? 

 

The democrats an no different that socialists from past times. They want to rule. Unfortunately for them eventually they'll find out it doesn't work and never has. 

 

Lastly, a quote from another forum that is very true.

 

If racism were to suddenly disappear tomorrow, it's not the republican party that would be hurt.

 

You might vote yourself free money today but it won't help your children of tomorrow. Perhaps it IS all about YOU!

Edited August 5, 2014 by Lowpower