Someone please explain what the hell this guy is doing.

[timcar86]

I've seen this technique a couple of times now. Seems like an incredibly inefficient waste of motion.

 

http://youtu.be/TMIfRNp2CM0?t=39s

[maroonandwhite]

Looks to me like he is just practicing transition to his weak hand. I practice shooting with mine but I always figured my right/strong  hand would be out of the equation if I wasn't shooting with it so I never saw the need to practice the transition. I usually just practice drawing or picking it up from the ground with my left hand only.

[timcar86]

Look at his grip though. I've never seen a grip like that before and quite frankly, it looks stupid.

[maroonandwhite]

Haha yeah. I think he may be trying to reinvent the wheel there. Didn't notice that before. Looks like maybe he is grabbing his wrist?? Or maybe that's the hand that holds his tactical knife just like on Call of Duty?  :pleased:

[timcar86]

Yeah. Like I said this is the second time I've seen this technique on YouTube. I really hope it's not a horrible trend.

[LagerHead]

If you look further into the video, at about 58 seconds, you can see the same thing from the side instead of from behind. Looks like a normal grip to me. 

[maroonandwhite]

If you look further into the video, at about 58 seconds, you can see the same thing from the side instead of from behind. Looks like a normal grip to me. 

Looks to me like when he switches to his left hand his right/support hand is going all the way under the gun to the left side. :shrug:

[Lowpower]

I suppose anyone with a gun, some money can come up with a shooting school. It doesn't mean it's worth a damn.

 

That being said the more someone shoots, the right or wrong way, the more he will get used to shooting and hitting.

Case in point...I have a friend that has gone through a shooting school, got his hcp, even qualified for a security guard.

 

I took him out to our range to shoot 8 inch steel plates at around 23 paces and he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from 

inside, with the door closed. It was funny to watch but sad...bang, bang,bang,bang,bang,cuss, bang,cuss,bang...reload..

bang,cuss, bang, hit! Then he turns to me and said, "finally!" MUAHAHAHAHAHA! I pulled my little 3.5 in Colt Officers and shoot

the other 5, bang ping, bang ping, bang ping, bang..MISS!, bang ping, bang ping. Whew, thought I was losing it. 

 

Another thing I learned many years ago in the Academy was you never keep any flashlight anywhere near your gun/body.

If you want to look around a corner you stick the light as far out away from you as you can. Then peek around the corner. 

If someone is gonna shoot they will shoot the light and it makes a great aiming point since its the only thing they can see. 

A miss on the light will probably hit whatever is behind it. So why in the world would anyone want to attach a light to their gun 

or hold it, pointing forward in one hand with the gun resting on their wrist? Amazing...

 

Things may have changed since the '70's but there was a reason that was taught back then. 

Edited July 21, 2014 by Lowpower

[timcar86]

Here's a better photo of the "grip":

[Mike.357]

it does not look very safe.  And the video does not show if he is hitting anything.

[Jamie Jackson]

I am not advocating the technique or anything, but it's called a Center Axis Relock . Paul Castle is the guy behind it IIRC and it's been around for a bit now. I was first exposed to it in or around 2005...

 

I know very little about it other than that. Just not anything I looked much into.

[LagerHead]

After seeing a better picture, it does look super tactical. Probably way above our heads. 

[Jamie Jackson]

After seeing a better picture, it does look super tactical. Probably way above our heads. 

 

LOL. Definitely above mine.

 

There's always someone selling something...and nothing new under the sun.

[timcar86]

I am not advocating the technique or anything, but it's called a Center Axis Relock . Paul Castle is the guy behind it IIRC and it's been around for a bit now. I was first exposed to it in or around 2005...

 

I know very little about it other than that. Just not anything I looked much into.

Thank you! I was trying to figure out where this came from. That at least answers that question.

[gjohnsoniv]

IIRC following on Prag's comment, it's the "new" method for trying to deal with recoil.  I might be thinking about a different stance and shooting style though.

[KKing]

Aside from my own personal opinion of the content of the video....I do believe that's the worst promotional video I've ever seen

[timcar86]

Aside from my own personal opinion of the content of the video....I do believe that's the worst promotional video I've ever seen

Go through the pictures. In almost every one the "instructor" has his finger on the trigger.

[KKing]

[quote name="timcar86" post="1170643" timestamp="1405962493"]Go through the pictures. In almost every one the "instructor" has his finger on the trigger.[/quote] Lol good catch. I like the one with the cigar in his mouth, way too badass for me. He appears more low speed, high drag to me. I think I'm going to open my own school

[nightrunner]

If its about or recoil control, he should demonstrate its effectiveness while shooting a Desert Eagle.

[MacGyver]

Here's the "inventor's" overview for whatever it's worth:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTFVffAho-k

 

Meh...

[Will Carry]

Look, the video had hard driving heavy metal music! It must be true.

[Dolomite_supafly]

Yeah, lets confuse people even more. I just tried aiming with my left eye and I can say it is hard. I guess after 35+ years of shooting it is a hard habit to break.

 

Every "tactical trainer" has to come up with something that makes them unique. We are in a gold rush, so to speak, of tactical training and all kinds are trying to get their fair share of the pot but very few have, what I feel, are the qualifications to train others. It takes more than 3-4 years in the military and a civilian course or two. 
 
Here is a pretty funny promotional video too.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JF_4d0FaBHo
He is one of our resident "experts" here in East Tennessee. And it seems as though he is a member here but not hanging around or posting. It also says a lot when they are using Highpoints. Now nothing wrong with a Highpoint but it is not something you see all the SEALs, CAG or other SOCOM units using. And I don't care how many times you have cleared a weapon you DO NOT use it in training where it will be pointed at someone else.

 

BTW, he used to work for a local sheriff's office but got himself into some trouble that forced him out of LE.

 

5.11's....check

thigh rig....check

catchy music...check

slow motion video....check

someone I would actually training with...fail

[Garufa]

Hey Dolo, does that range look familiar to you?

[timcar86]

Video above at 1:51! That was amazing!!!

Also, struggling to get your mag from under your belly, very tactical.

[Dolomite_supafly]

Hey Dolo, does that range look familiar to you?

LOL, I just noticed it now. Glad to see is doing so well he can afford his own training facility. Maybe he has been there when we were there. I know I have seen quite a few "tactical trainers" using that public range.

 

I just read his BIO and he is "Security Operations Manager with Blacksword Security". Sounds kind of familiar....LOL