TN Firearms Freedoms Act

[JayC]

Only way to make this work, is to prohibit government employees of the state or any subdivision of the state from enforcing federal firearm laws a crime.  Then allow citizens to go before a judge to start criminal procedures against any state employee who violates the law.

 

If the feds want to run over the 2nd amendment, the least we can do stop helping them with our state taxes.

 

The fact is if we refused to cooperate with the feds they wouldn't be able to come into TN and enforce anything on their own.

[DaveTN]

Only way to make this work, is to prohibit government employees of the state or any subdivision of the state from enforcing federal firearm laws a crime.  Then allow citizens to go before a judge to start criminal procedures against any state employee who violates the law.
 
If the feds want to run over the 2nd amendment, the least we can do stop helping them with our state taxes.
 
The fact is if we refused to cooperate with the feds they wouldn't be able to come into TN and enforce anything on their own.

We have already done that. The state won’t help the Feds enforce new gun laws. That won’t help you if you are the poor SOB they catch.

Our state doesn’t recognize the 2nd amendment as an individual right. So why is it an issue? We have what we have because of States Rights. As long as we stick with that we are good. I think the Feds have already seen that they are going to outlaw EBR's.

[Guest theconstitutionrocks]

The TFFA CAN be enforced, it simply takes state will to do it. As I have said before in previous posts, the state controls the land mass, the road networks, and to some extent, the airspace. If they put their foot down and tell the feds "look, you come in here trying to raid/arrest people who are in compliance with this law, and we will arrest you"....Fact of the matter is that the feds have to have a place to stage, routes to travel, and fuel to get there. Control those along with a significant LE/NG presence, and the feds have a problem.

 

When you look at the the whole pot debacle in CO & WA as well as fed bluster and inaction when states assert rights or resistance, the feds usually don't act. I SERIOUSLY doubt that they are willing to risk a confrontation or crisis over something like this...

 

F*** em.

[Guest theconstitutionrocks]

I thought if I was arrested for having a gun in my car I would fight it on 2nd amendment grounds. That was way up there with the stupidest things I have done in my life. But it made it crystal clear to me I don’t have a right to bear arms.

There is a whole lot of difference on being arrested for a misdemeanor pot or gun charge and a Federal weapons charge. Federal prison time…. Thanks, but I’ll pass.
 
I wouldn’t read too much into the SCOTUS not hearing a case; it doesn’t mean they agree with the lower court. They will have 10K cases submitted a year; they will hear under 100 of those.

The TFFA was passed into law in 2009; I’m not sure why it hasn’t been challenged in court yet unless it requires someone being charged to challenge it? As a C&R license holder I got a letter from the BATF that said they do not recognize it.

Dave, the piece of your contention that seems to be missing is WHO arrested you. If the state enforces this law, and local/state LE abide by it, then it would seem the only entity that would do that to you are the feds, who would not be able to operate within the state borders  if the state has asserted the legal protections of its citizens. Yeah, I know,,,,federal trumps state etc etc etc, but if the law passes constitutional scrutiny then it is enforceable by the state...it's simply a matter of will.

[JayC]

My was more of a point of man power...  We have 15,000 or so police officers in TN, and maybe 1,000 feds...  with no support whatsoever how many arrests can the feds make on their own?

 

They'd still arrest and charge people, it would just be a lot fewer if they didn't have help from the state.

 

And Dave, I'm suggesting we not only do this for new laws, but for all the federal laws on the books today involving firearm ownership by law abiding citizens.

 

Dave, the piece of your contention that seems to be missing is WHO arrested you. If the state enforces this law, and local/state LE abide by it, then it would seem the only entity that would do that to you are the feds, who would not be able to operate within the state borders  if the state has asserted the legal protections of its citizens. Yeah, I know,,,,federal trumps state etc etc etc, but if the law passes constitutional scrutiny then it is enforceable by the state...it's simply a matter of will.

 

[DaveTN]

The TFFA CAN be enforced,

Are you volunteering to test it?

[TrickyNicky]

Are you volunteering to test it?

And around and around we go. :)

[Guest theconstitutionrocks]

Are you volunteering to test it?

Once the state has definitively demonstrated that it will protect it's citizens from the feds if they try to enforce it....yes

[Capbyrd]

The TFFA CAN be enforced, it simply takes state will to do it. As I have said before in previous posts, the state controls the land mass, the road networks, and to some extent, the airspace. If they put their foot down and tell the feds "look, you come in here trying to raid/arrest people who are in compliance with this law, and we will arrest you"....Fact of the matter is that the feds have to have a place to stage, routes to travel, and fuel to get there. Control those along with a significant LE/NG presence, and the feds have a problem.

 

When you look at the the whole pot debacle in CO & WA as well as fed bluster and inaction when states assert rights or resistance, the feds usually don't act. I SERIOUSLY doubt that they are willing to risk a confrontation or crisis over something like this...

 

F*** em.

 

 

And the state gets a significant chunk of funding from the federal government.