Gun confiscation is on the table in Conn.

[jphillips63]

Now we know why DHS and the likes has been buying up ammo the way they have and let's not forget the local police depts with armored vehicles sitting in the parking lots of there offices. I do believe there's going to be a civil war of the sort in the future, when I don't know. But I'd say it'll be over either the gun confiscation of lawfully gun owners or when the govt taps into our 401k and savings for there on greed and benefits. But it's coming I just hope not in my lifetime.

[RED333]

All right put on your tin foil hats,

Hagel cutting the Armed forces down, DHS and their underlings as "O"s army,

buying more ammo than they can shoot in a year, now this.

Ya thinking yet?

[mikegideon]

All right put on your tin foil hats,

Hagel cutting the Armed forces down, DHS and their underlings as "O"s army,

buying more ammo than they can shoot in a year, now this.

Ya thinking yet?

 

Look at it this way. O can't pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel. Alexander the Great he ain't.

[RED333]

Look at it this way. O can't pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel. Alexander the Great he ain't.

:rofl: :rock: best post in the thread yet!

[Blitzen]

Perhaps there is a bridge up in Connecticut where we can assemble.

Better to assemble in the woods with a heavy canopy cover to stay out of the drones sight.

[Chucktshoes]

http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=11186

[sigmtnman]

http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=11186

Service unavailable?

[Chucktshoes]

[quote name="sigmtnman" post="1116227" timestamp="1393295798"]Service unavailable?[/quote] Crap, it isn't working for me right now either. The article was about the state of CT sending out letters to late filers telling them to get rid of their prohibited items.

[sigmtnman]

Crap, it isn't working for me right now either. The article was about the state of CT sending out letters to late filers telling them to get rid of their prohibited items.

Where did they get the data on the owners?

[Chucktshoes]

IIRC it was folks that attempted to file but were late and missed the deadline.

[sigmtnman]

They should send back dead fish wrapped in newspaper.

[mikegideon]

This is some quality reading. An open letter from the three percenters to Connecticut Law Enforcement.

 

Let's assume that there are 100,000 non-compliant owners of military pattern semi-automatic rifles in your state. I think it is a larger number but 100,000 has a nice round ring to it. Let us then apply the rule of three percent to that number -- not to the entire population of your state, not even to the number of firearm owners, but just to that much smaller demonstrated number of resistors. That leaves you with at least 3,000 men and women who will shoot you if you try to enforce this intolerable act upon them. 

 

 

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/02/an-open-letter-to-men-and-women-of.html

Edited February 25, 2014 by mikegideon

[Chucktshoes]

This is some quality reading. An open letter from the three percenters to Connecticut Law Enforcement.

 

Let's assume that there are 100,000 non-compliant owners of military pattern semi-automatic rifles in your state. I think it is a larger number but 100,000 has a nice round ring to it. Let us then apply the rule of three percent to that number -- not to the entire population of your state, not even to the number of firearm owners, but just to that much smaller demonstrated number of resistors. That leaves you with at least 3,000 men and women who will shoot you if you try to enforce this intolerable act upon them. 

 

 

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/02/an-open-letter-to-men-and-women-of.html

MVB hit a home run with that one.

[mikegideon]

MVB hit a home run with that one.

 

He spelled it out for the slow ones. Bet it made a few liberal heads explode.

[rugerla1]

This is some quality reading. An open letter from the three percenters to Connecticut Law Enforcement.

 

Let's assume that there are 100,000 non-compliant owners of military pattern semi-automatic rifles in your state. I think it is a larger number but 100,000 has a nice round ring to it. Let us then apply the rule of three percent to that number -- not to the entire population of your state, not even to the number of firearm owners, but just to that much smaller demonstrated number of resistors. That leaves you with at least 3,000 men and women who will shoot you if you try to enforce this intolerable act upon them. 

 

 

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/02/an-open-letter-to-men-and-women-of.html

Thanks for posting that Mike. Great read!

[KKing]

[quote name="mikegideon" post="1116287" timestamp="1393303146"]This is some quality reading. An open letter from the three percenters to Connecticut Law Enforcement. [color=rgb(102,102,102)][font=Trebuchet MS][size=3][i]Let's assume that there are 100,000 non-compliant owners of military pattern semi-automatic rifles in your state. I think it is a larger number but 100,000 has a nice round ring to it. Let us then apply the rule of three percent to that number -- not to the entire population of your state, not even to the number of firearm owners, but just to that much smaller demonstrated number of resistors. [u][b]That leaves you with at least 3,000 men and women who will shoot you if you try to enforce this intolerable act upon them[/b][/u][/i]. [/size][/font][/color] [url="http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/02/an-open-letter-to-men-and-women-of.html"]http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/02/an-open-letter-to-men-and-women-of.html[/url][/quote] At the risk of sounding cliche....sh*t just got real people Edited February 25, 2014 by KKing

[mikegideon]

At the risk of sounding cliche....sh*t just got real people

 

It's been real. All the "keep calm" stuff only lasts until confiscation starts.

[TMF]

Somebody give me a reasonable education on how this is LEGALLY possible.  The following things would need to happen in order for this to turn into a "door to door confiscation".

 

1. State law enforcement would need access to the 4473s.  They don't.  I suppose they could do some kinda wacky agreement with the feds to get that stuff, but it would still involve a whole lot of man hours to go through millions of 4473s to locate each sale of an "assault rifle".

 

2. Even if they have al 4473s in hand, how would that translate to probable cause for a search or a warrant for a search?  I suppose on an individual basis they could get warrants, but I'm a little skeptical of a judge issuing 150,000 search warrants and still keeping his job.  Considering that person to person sales of "assault rifles" were legal up until now without any paperwork, a house visit by law enforcement would be nothing more than a knock on the door, telling the cops you sold it to someone whose name you don't remember and that is the end of that.

 

3. All out nazi, warrantless searches, FEMA death camps, MRAPs on every street corner, cats and dogs living together, people spelling America with a "K", Wolverines!..... AAAAAAHHHHHHH!

 

So no, I don't think this is "it".  Wake me up when they execute the #3 option.  Until then we could speculate on what the government "could" do.  But they have nukes too, so I guess the government "could" nuke Ohio just as easily as they could kick down your door and take your rifle. 

[Guest semiautots]

I think a fair question to ask, even rhetorically, is "would the fine current or former LEO's that frequent this board take part in these raids if the same set of circumstances were to exist here in Tennessee."

I'm not looking for an answer, just some soul searching.

Edited February 25, 2014 by semiautots

[DaveTN]

Hitler was in Nazi Germany, Connecticut is in the United States. You may believe that the cops will kick in doors and scare people into compliance; but I do not. What Connecticut is doing is wrong; they will have to be told that, either by the voters at the polls or by the courts.

Anything is possible, but without exigent circumstances or plain view, they need a warrant to kick a door on a house. One incident is all it would take.

I believe they will make these arrests as they come into contact with these weapons and owners. Traffic stops, Domestic violence calls, burglary calls, house fires, etc.

A person threatening to kill cops doesn’t scare anyone. Vanderboegh will soon be in prison or a mental institution. He’s just another one of these nut cases that thinks he wants a war. He would die where he makes his stand; as a criminal. But he won’t; he’s just a bunch on noise.

[Guest semiautots]

Hitler was in Nazi Germany, Connecticut is in the United States. You may believe that the cops will kick in doors and scare people into compliance; but I do not. What Connecticut is doing is wrong; they will have to be told that, either by the voters at the polls or by the courts.

Anything is possible, but without exigent circumstances or plain view, they need a warrant to kick a door on a house. One incident is all it would take.

I believe they will make these arrests as they come into contact with these weapons and owners. Traffic stops, Domestic violence calls, burglary calls, house fires, etc.

A person threatening to kill cops doesn’t scare anyone. Vanderboegh will soon be in prison or a mental institution. He’s just another one of these nut cases that thinks he wants a war. He would die where he makes his stand; as a criminal. But he won’t; he’s just a bunch on noise.

 

Or he's telling the truth.

[mikegideon]

Somebody give me a reasonable education on how this is LEGALLY possible.  The following things would need to happen in order for this to turn into a "door to door confiscation".

 

1. State law enforcement would need access to the 4473s.  They don't.  I suppose they could do some kinda wacky agreement with the feds to get that stuff, but it would still involve a whole lot of man hours to go through millions of 4473s to locate each sale of an "assault rifle".

 

2. Even if they have al 4473s in hand, how would that translate to probable cause for a search or a warrant for a search?  I suppose on an individual basis they could get warrants, but I'm a little skeptical of a judge issuing 150,000 search warrants and still keeping his job.  Considering that person to person sales of "assault rifles" were legal up until now without any paperwork, a house visit by law enforcement would be nothing more than a knock on the door, telling the cops you sold it to someone whose name you don't remember and that is the end of that.

 

3. All out nazi, warrantless searches, FEMA death camps, MRAPs on every street corner, cats and dogs living together, people spelling America with a "K", Wolverines!..... AAAAAAHHHHHHH!

 

So no, I don't think this is "it".  Wake me up when they execute the #3 option.  Until then we could speculate on what the government "could" do.  But they have nukes too, so I guess the government "could" nuke Ohio just as easily as they could kick down your door and take your rifle. 

 

What about 5 or 10 warrants? Is that "it"? They don't have the resources to do mass confiscations. They DO have the resources to do a few. Because of the commie bastards running that state, you now have roughly 100,000 "felons" that were created out of thin air. We are talking about the people that were stupid enough to do THAT. Are they gonna ratchet it up? Who knows.

[JohnC]

Hitler was in Nazi Germany, Connecticut is in the United States. You may believe that the cops will kick in doors and scare people into compliance; but I do not. What Connecticut is doing is wrong; they will have to be told that, either by the voters at the polls or by the courts.

Anything is possible, but without exigent circumstances or plain view, they need a warrant to kick a door on a house. One incident is all it would take.

I believe they will make these arrests as they come into contact with these weapons and owners. Traffic stops, Domestic violence calls, burglary calls, house fires, etc.

A person threatening to kill cops doesn’t scare anyone. Vanderboegh will soon be in prison or a mental institution. He’s just another one of these nut cases that thinks he wants a war. He would die where he makes his stand; as a criminal. But he won’t; he’s just a bunch on noise.

The Germans and Jews probably thought nothing like what happened could ever happen to them or their own country (and the countless other communist and socialist countries). It takes a long process to get people to that point, but with propaganda, education, etc., anything is possible.

No one said they wanted to kill cops. :rolleyes:

I guess you missed it. Gun confiscation happened during Katrina. I could post a lot of other instances where the law and constitution did not protect the citizens in the moment these illegal and unconstitutional situations happened.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

But I guess you'll believe what you want and everyone else is just tin foil hatters. :lol:

[mikegideon]

Hitler was in Nazi Germany, Connecticut is in the United States. You may believe that the cops will kick in doors and scare people into compliance; but I do not. What Connecticut is doing is wrong; they will have to be told that, either by the voters at the polls or by the courts.

Anything is possible, but without exigent circumstances or plain view, they need a warrant to kick a door on a house. One incident is all it would take.

I believe they will make these arrests as they come into contact with these weapons and owners. Traffic stops, Domestic violence calls, burglary calls, house fires, etc.

A person threatening to kill cops doesn’t scare anyone. Vanderboegh will soon be in prison or a mental institution. He’s just another one of these nut cases that thinks he wants a war. He would die where he makes his stand; as a criminal. But he won’t; he’s just a bunch on noise.

 

The way I read it, he was saying that 100,000 law abiding citizens just told the state to shove their law up their ass, even though it made them felons. He speculates that around 3% of them will actually defend themselves with their weapons. Is that a threat or a warning?

[TMF]

What about 5 or 10 warrants? Is that "it"? They don't have the resources to do mass confiscations. They DO have the resources to do a few. Because of the commie bastards running that state, you now have roughly 100,000 "felons" that were created out of thin air. We are talking about the people that were stupid enough to do THAT. Are they gonna ratchet it up? Who knows.

You may be right about them trying their luck with a few, but I imagine those will be extenuating circumstances rather than just a guy who bought an AR15 once. I predict it will be folks who have broken some other law or have been reported to have an "illegal assault rifle", which, sadly at this point, is on equal footing with having narcotics with intent to distribute in that state. I don't predict them simply getting a 4473 and then getting a warrant. It certainly wouldn't rise to the level of PC. In fact, I suppose a precedent being set by obtaining a 4473 and executing a search warrant based in that would result in that whole 3% thing we keep hearing about.

No, this is bad but this isn't "it". I admire the vigilance but do not believe the "call to arms" as it were, at least for any reason other than to make liberals scared.


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