Sorta cool find. (Edited-Deja Vu all over again, 50 years later..and some ads

[Guest TankerHC]

When I was born my parents started saving magazines from my birth month. When I was a kid if my dad would see an old one he would grab it. Some boxes I have been toting around for 30+ years. I have been going through them and came across this tonight along with Boys Life, Field and Stream and a bunch of others.

 

Early last year I watched an interview with David Keene in Baltimore when he stated that up to 72 (or 73 cant remember) the NRA had not been actively involved in Politics. Some Senator came to the NRA and said something to the effect that if the NRA didnt do something "Your about to lose your gun rights". Well that was exactly true from what I see in this magazine. Actively involved no, I dont see a single thing in this mag that shows active participation, but every anti (And Pro) gun bill that went before the State Legislators is here, with warnings to the members. "Good Bills and Bad Bill". So they were keeping the membership informed.

 

Here are some of the "Bad" Bills from February 1963. See anything that rings a bell? And of course there is the Editorial that focuses on anti gun laws by The Congress and State Legislatures.

 

There is also a good article in here about the testing, manufacture, and adoption of the M14 along with an article on Thompson Ramo Woolridge Inc. "A third contractor with no previous riflemaking experience, Thomas Ramo Woolridge Inc., began deliveries ahead of schedule"

 

NRA membership was $5 per year or $20 for 5 years, no option for Life. You could pick up a .357 Blackhawk or .256 Hawkeye (Either one) for $87.50 and RCBS Shell Holders were $3.99 and a Lyman Single Stage Spartan Press was $12. And its loaded with Military Surplus guns.

 

No. 4 Enfield. $16.95

1917 Springfield $29.95

'03 Springfield $39.95

German Mauser $19.95

German Lugers. $39.95 or you could get the Reichwehr Double Date Lugers $65 or the Luger "mauser banner model for $90. The Nazi K Series - $75 or Nazi G series $55. And a bunch of other $15-$20 handguns.

 

An M1 Carbine manufactured with entirely new GI parts was $89.95. WWII Enfield Sporter (Sniper) with scope was 19 bucks. An M1 Garand still set you back $89. Arisaka's were 12 bucks.

 

One thing you never see in the current version, reloading data. This issue was the .38, .357 and .44 mag.

 

Any interest Ill scan this in, its full of old ads and about twice as thick as the current version.

 

Bad Bills

 

Ct. Proposed 5 Day waiting period for purchase of a Handgun.

 

New  York. Proposed the licensing of explosives be taken from the City,Town or Village Clerk and increase the fee's for explosive licenses.

 

New York. Prohibit the carrying or posession of a loaded rifle in a vehicle.

 

New York. Requires the provision of an affidavit or a previous hunting license in order to obtain a hunting license in New York.

 

New York. Proposes banning huunters during Deer season from carrying Shotgun Shells holding slug or ball unless in posession of a Deer license.

 

New York. Proposes persons in Andirondack Park from carrying certain weapons while hunting with a dog.

 

 

Deja vu all over again.....from 50 years ago

 

 

And some ads.

 

 

 

And they would even let you have a gun on a 30 day free trial back then.

 

 

 

Edited February 21, 2014 by TankerHC

[Smokin45]

Nice find :up:

[Guest PapaB]

Okay, you sold me. I'll take the M1 Garand but for that kind of money it better be in good condition. I'm not paying 89 bucks for a piece of junk.

[TrickyNicky]

"No. 4 Enfield. $16.95
1917 Springfield $29.95
'03 Springfield $39.95
German Mauser $19.95
German Lugers. $39.95 or you could get the Reichwehr Double Date Lugers $65 or the Luger "mauser banner model for $90. The Nazi K Series - $75 or Nazi G series $55. And a bunch of other $15-$20 handguns."

10 of each please! :x:

[runco]

I always like to compare what things cost in terms of average wages.  So this was 1963, the average medium income was $4,396.64.  There are 2080 working hours in a year (52 wks x 40 hours), so the average hourly rate was $2.12.   The Enfield No 4 in 1963 was selling for $16.95 or 7.99 hours of work.  Fast forward to today, the medium income is $44,321.67 which is the same as $21.31 per hour.  According to Gun Broker, a Enfield No 4 is around ~$300, which is 14.1 hours of work. 

 

Not a bad investment, it took 51 years for the gun to increase 76% in working hours value.

 

My info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_Indexed_Monthly_Earnings

 

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=enfield+no+4

[Guest TankerHC]

I always like to compare what things cost in terms of average wages.  So this was 1963, the average medium income was $4,396.64.  There are 2080 working hours in a year (52 wks x 40 hours), so the average hourly rate was $2.12.   The Enfield No 4 in 1963 was selling for $16.95 or 7.99 hours of work.  Fast forward to today, the medium income is $44,321.67 which is the same as $21.31 per hour.  According to Gun Broker, a Enfield No 4 is around ~$300, which is 14.1 hours of work. 

 

Not a bad investment, it took 51 years for the gun to increase 76% in working hours value.

 

My info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_Indexed_Monthly_Earnings

 

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=enfield+no+4

 

So average "growth" in value of 1.49% for over 50 years.

 

So compare that to a "guaranteed" fixed rate, no risk, annuity  in TN.

 

On the low end, (New York Life) .60% to .70%

 

On the  high end. Principal select. 1.65%.

 

With the average of all of them (There are about 20 good ones) being 1.45%

 

With guns there is no risk. With no risk annuity's, there is still risk. (No risk - no reward). When the market drops, guaranteed payouts (No risk) become hard to accomplish. Just ask no risk Bear Sterns investors. With guns, if the gun market drops, you can still use your guns to eat. You can also sell them for cash. You cant eat promises from your investment companies.

 

With guns, after you buy them, there are no additional fees. Thier yours. With "no risk" annuities you pay fees for the no risk guarantee. There are a lot of fees that in some cases can eat up half of your return over your working lifetime.

 

With guns, if you don't like or don't want them, just sell them and all the money is yours. With annuities, sell before age 59 1/2 and there are high taxes and a 10% penalty. 

 

WIth annuities, you get to log in and watch your growth, which takes about two seconds. With guns, you get to go to the range, or hunt or whatever.

 

You cant add all kinds of cool whiz bang doo dads to annuities.

 

The Gov. can declare an Economic emergency and tomorrow, with the stroke of a pen, freeze or even confiscate your assets. With guns, they cant. They have been trying for 230 years and it hasn't worked yet.

 

My conclusion, based on my expert financial opinion. Buy more guns.

 

(OK, so Im not really an expert)

[runco]

I like the way you think. Buy more guns! Edited February 21, 2014 by Runco

[dawgdoc]

So, I see that modern New York politicians are just continuing an age-old tradition of infringement on their citizens' rights.

[Guest TankerHC]

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