So, how rare IS a Swiss made SIG P225?

[Steelharp]

Saw a SIG P225 with a European style heel mag release, and it says, "Montage Suisse" where it would say "Made in W Germany" or "Made in Germany." Is it pretty rare?

[luvmyberetta]

I'm not sure about how rare they are, but most owners either love or hate them, but it's mostly love. Most of the complaints you hear are about the single stack mags & the old style heel release. They're excellent quality pistols & are extremely reliable. Some owners claim they have the most balanced feel of any SIG they've shot. I find it ironic that "Montage Suisse" is French for "Swiss Built" (with German parts of course). They usually sell in the $350-$450 range in good to very good used condition & the mags tend to sell for around $35-$40 each when I've seen them. Be sure to post some pics if you grab it.

 

Here's a link with a lot more info than I can provide. They picture a newer model with the upper mag release, but the info relates to the older models too.  http://www.cybershooters.org/dgca/sig-sauer_p225.htm

Edited February 14, 2014 by luvmyberetta

[runco]

I don't think they are that rare.  I believe you have a Sig, and not a Sig Sauer.  Sauer portion I think is the German connection, and they combined in the 1970s.  I found two links that may be of interest, not sure how old the 2nd post is:

 

http://www.sigsauer.com/AboutUs/History.aspx

 

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1SIG225

[Steelharp]

Slide says Sig Sauer...

 

The article in luvmyberettas' link says: "The main variants of the P225 are the one shown here, and the much rarer version with the heel-of-the-butt magazine release."

 

Must be kinda rare...

Edited February 14, 2014 by Steelharp

[Steelharp]

Well, I grabbed it. I love the feel of it. And it shoots great, too! Kinda cool owning a SIG that not everyone has. The SA is terrific; I need to see about getting the DA lightened up a bit. It's smooth, just heavier than I like.

[hipower]

Now you need a Trailside to go with it.

[luvmyberetta]

Well, I grabbed it. I love the feel of it. And it shoots great, too! Kinda cool owning a SIG that not everyone has. The SA is terrific; I need to see about getting the DA lightened up a bit. It's smooth, just heavier than I like.

 

You can pick up a spring here to lighten the DA pull by a few lbs or a spring kit to tune it to your liking & still keep it 100% reliable. If it's going to be a range toy go as light as you want on the hammer spring. If you plan to use it for SD I wouldn't go lower than 18 or 19 lbs. Here's the link for the P225 springs.... http://www.gunsprings.com/Semi-Auto%20Pistols/SIG-SAUER%20(SIGARMS)/P-225,%20P-228,%20P-229/cID1/mID4/dID253#295

[Steelharp]

You can pick up a spring here to lighten the DA pull by a few lbs or a spring kit to tune it to your liking & still keep it 100% reliable. If it's going to be a range toy go as light as you want on the hammer spring. If you plan to use it for SD I wouldn't go lower than 18 or 19 lbs. Here's the link for the P225 springs.... http://www.gunsprings.com/Semi-Auto%20Pistols/SIG-SAUER%20(SIGARMS)/P-225,%20P-228,%20P-229/cID1/mID4/dID253#295

Ok, being I'm pert ignernt on such things... does that mean an 18-19 pound trigger pull???

[luvmyberetta]

Ok, being I'm pert ignernt on such things... does that mean an 18-19 pound trigger pull???

 

No. The factory spring is rated at about 24 lbs & the factory DA trigger pull is around 10-11 lbs. Installing a 18 or 19 lb spring should lower the trigger pull by about 3 lbs. You should be able to get a 7-8 lb DA pull. The SA pull will remain about the same, maybe 1/2 lb lighter. If you go with a lighter spring (16 or 17 lb) the trigger will improve even more, but you run the risk of light primer strikes which would be acceptable for a range toy, but not for SD. I'd also buy some snap caps, lube it up, & dry fire the crap out of it. The more you dry fire it the smoother most triggers become, plus you get a more familiar feel for the gun.

Edited February 16, 2014 by luvmyberetta

[Guest tangojuliet]

PICS OR YOU DIDNT BUY IT !!!

[kwe45919]

PICS OR YOU DIDNT BUY IT !!!

  Yup.

[Steelharp]

[Steelharp]

Now, the debate is do I like it enough to keep it? I've ordered a new hammer spring for it; once I've put that in, I'll be able to decide.

[Steelharp]

Ok, so... got the new 18 lb. hammer spring in the mail Monday. Watched a YouTube video on how to change it; looked simple enough. BUT, this has the heel release, so it was different. Yesterday on the way to work, I stopped at Sam's shop to see if he could put it in real quick. Sam wasn't there, but Chad was. Chad put it in... and it was terrible. Gritty, stiffer... miserable. I thought I really screwed up. Chad said to leave it with him, and he'd bring it by the shop in a bit.

 

So, I'm at work, and in about an hour, here he comes with it. Hands it to me... and omg, let me tell you, it's incredible. WhatEVER he did was magic. Definitely a keeper.