I would like to ask this ??????

[bersaguy]

I would like to ask folks here just how many folks actually think that when a crime is committed and a large reward is offer for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the criminal are really paid? I know the $1,000.00 bucks is paid by Crime Stoppers but I'm talking the really bigger rewards anything $10,000.000 and hire. I do have a reason for asking.

[Will Carry]

       It is a good question. I wish I could answer it.

[Dolomite_supafly]

Reward, or not, if you have information to prevent or solve a crime why not come forward? There are victims that could potentially get closure.

[DaveTN]

I would guess the number would be near 100% from reputable organizations.
But it’s not like the names are going to be announced or be in the news.

[MacGyver]

Those are generally made good on, or at least offered. Interestingly though, a pretty good number of people end up not accepting a reward for simply doing the right thing.

[Dustbuster]

That's a good question. Crime stoppers will pay as long as you press them. That's the bad part,pressing them. You also have to remember, usually, the reward is for "information leading to the arrest" of the criminal...Being you're in Sumner county,id be leery as well of an offer to pay for something leading to an arrest.If the reward is from an organization like Dave mentioned, document everything and lay your claim out, if its huge money might be best to lawyer up to make sure you don't get screwed.If you have information on a violent crime one should step up to aid in apprehension and prosecution.It's the right thing to do, if you're not sure, you can provide info anonymously in the name of safety if it involves a volume of thugs...

Right now there's over a million in rewards for crimes involving kidnappings and murder in TN alone.250 K for holly bobo,25k plus for jennifer wix, and then some...

Edited February 13, 2014 by Dustbuster

[bersaguy]

The reason I am asking this question is because lets say a guy named Tom was involved in a case back in early 80's when a Cheatham County Sheriff's Deputy was killed during a drug store burglary. He was shot in the back twice by someone with a shotgun and 00 buck from about 15 yards and killed. Tom owned a Service Station on the 188 exit of Kingston Springs Tennessee on I-40. Tom knew the officer quite well and he was a friend. He had a few officers come by his station and talk with him and asked him if he had seen anything out of the ordinary the night before and he didn't have anything really jump out at him about  the night before. He had heard about Frankie getting killed on the news that morning over in Pegram at the Drug Store during the burglary. He didn't really give it much thought that day but the next day as he got ready to leave for work and to open the station he noticed his neighbors truck was not there which was different since they were never gone that early. The house was a rental they lived in. He asked his sons that afternoon if the neighbor boy Jeff was in school that day and they said no. That night their truck never came home. Tom went back to the night Frankie was killed in his mind and he remembered that early that next morning his neighbors had gotten their truck stuck on a mud road the night before that entered the Mobile home park they all lived in and they asked him if he could take his 4x4 and pull their truck out of the mud. He didn't think about it but he went up and pulled them out and he did ask them why they came in on the mud road instead of the paved road since it had rained that night and they looked at each other but never answered. Just paid him the 20 bucks for pulling them out and left and that was the last time he had seen their truck. Being a logical thinker back then and somewhat curious about things he began  trying to look at what all these small parts of the picture were.  He also remembered that back in the months leading up to Frankies death the two oldest brothers and the one school age boy would go out in the fields behind the house and cap off a few shotguns they owned at targets which soon became another piece of the puzzle since Frankie was killed with a shotgun.  It had now been 4 days and their truck had not been home and the youngest boy had not been back to school as Tom would ask his boys each day when they got in from school. There was two young men in early 20's a boy about 13 and their mother all living there and the mother was in bad health.  He let one more day pass and then he decided it was time to ask a few questions of his own and he knew a few TBI investigators personally that were friends of his so he called one of them up and had them stop by his house that afternoon.  He had one of them run the names of the two oldest boys through the data base  and their names came back as having records for burglaries of Drug Stores and had served time for them. That got both Butch and Jerry asking him questions as to how he knew these two and he began at the beginning of what he had put together. They called and got a search warrant for both the house and the land behind the house where they did their target shooting. They picked up at least 50 empty casings from a 12 gauge and about the same amount of 20 gauge rounds. Then they searched the house. In the house they found about 5 rounds of 12 gauge 00buck and a drawer full of cheap watches with the Pegram Pharmacy price tags still on them in the boxes. They had enough evidence for arrest warrants and within 72 hours had all three arrested. One in Woodbine at sisters house along with mother and youngest boy and the other was caught in Texas at a brothers house and brought back to Tennessee.  Now, Tom thought he lead the law enforcement to all the evidence that lead to the arrest of the people that later he testified at their trial about towing their truck out of the mud and about them shooting the shotguns in the field behind the house where they found the empty casings  that later proved that the firing pin strike on the empty shells behind the house matched the firing pin strike of the rounds found at the scene of the shooting of Frankie and they had the watches from the burglary. They had zero leads until he spoke with the TBI with what he had figured out. There was a $25,000.00 reward leading to the arrest and conviction of the criminals. They were arrested, convicted and sentenced to life with out the possibility of parole. Tom never got a dime of that reward or was it ever offered to him and when he asked about it he was told that it was his civil duty to tell law enforcement if he had any information that may lead to catching the killers of a law enforcement officer and he should not want the reward but be proud they were caught with his help. Thing is he didn't really want it. He wanted it given to Frankie's wife and new born son but they never saw a dime of it either even after he asked that it be given to them. That was my reason for asking what I did about the rewards. I was just  wondering if anyone ever got them or are they just a rouge to get folks to talk?

[Dustbuster]

Call TBI and see if it was issued or the state comptrollers office. The reward can be a rouge if no one gets it..


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[RC3]

It always bothered me we have to be rewarded to do the right thing. 

[TMF]

It always bothered me we have to be rewarded to do the right thing.

No you don't. Folks could just do the right thing for free. Problem is, there are so many sh***y people tied to the criminal world that rewards are the only way to entice them.

I'd turn a criminal in for free. It just so happens I don't know any because I'm not the type of oxygen thieving scum that would hang around the type of people who would kill an innocent.


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[bersaguy]

Tom was told that to get him to not claim it. If he had pressed he could have claimed it. Given it was 30ish years ago I highly doubt he could claim it now or even sue for it with statute of limitations and all.

One thing I would like to add is that I think they need to change the military rule about government rewards. For example, the guys that got Bin Laden and the guys that found Sadam etc should all get to split those big arse multi million dollar rewards. But no, uncle Sam's pay grade is supposed to be enough for them.

 

Tom didn't want it but he requested that it be given to the dead officers wife and new born child and they didn't get it either. I think if they don't plan on giving the rewards they should not offer them but just ask for the help from the public and leave it at that............jmho

 

As far as the reward for Bin Laden, in all reality it should have went to the doctor that gave them the information on how to find him but instead the doctor gets caught by the Pakistan Government and imprisoned when in all reality we should have smuggled him out of the country and put him in protective custody..........Another failure of our great administration................jmho

[bersaguy]

No you don't. Folks could just do the right thing for free. Problem is, there are so many sh***y people tied to the criminal world that rewards are the only way to entice them.

I'd turn a criminal in for free. It just so happens I don't know any because I'm not the type of oxygen thieving scum that would hang around the type of people who would kill an innocent.


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You don't have to associate with them to know them. They could be your neighbor or a person you work with. Tom didn't associate with his neighbors. He was a former LEO detective back in his younger years and that was what enabled him to even begin to put a case together. He still thought like a LEO from his past education.

[TMF]

You don't have to associate with them to know them. They could be your neighbor or a person you work with. Tom didn't associate with his neighbors. He was a former LEO detective back in his younger years and that was what enabled him to even begin to put a case together. He still thought like a LEO from his past education.

Sure, just speaking in generalities. Good people turn in bad people. I have a whole lotta experience in this. Usually though, in order to get bad people you have to entice other bad people to turn them in. That takes money or leverage.


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[DaveTN]

One thing I would like to add is that I think they need to change the military rule about government rewards. For example, the guys that got Bin Laden and the guys that found Sadam etc should all get to split those big arse multi million dollar rewards. But no, uncle Sam's pay grade is supposed to be enough for them.

Military and LE get paid to do their job; otherwise their title would be Bounty Hunter. Rewards are to entice people that may not come forward out of fear, don’t care, or are criminals.

[bersaguy]

Sure, just speaking in generalities. Good people turn in bad people. I have a whole lotta experience in this. Usually though, in order to get bad people you have to entice other bad people to turn them in. That takes money or leverage.


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  I can agree with that. Normally it is one bad guy ratting out another for the money........................... :up: :up: