New sights for my Gold Cup 1911, different rear sight views?

[timthetoolman]

The Eliason cut rear sight on my Gold Cup is crooked and I am looking for replacement options.  Has anyone had this issue before?  Im also wondering what type of sights, and sight picture would be ideal.  ie 3 dots, white outline, etc.  Any input?

 

It would be great to find a pic on the net that showed the different types of rear sight setups from the shooter POV but I couldnt google one up.

[Westwindmike]

I dropped my 70 Series Gold Cup about 20 years ago and bent the rear site. At that time, Millet made an exact fit replacement site. Looks just like the original. It has worked well for the last 20 years or so. Just don't drop it on the rear site.

[timthetoolman]

Is your series 70 dovetailed in the back or does it have the long slot like a Python.  The Eliason cut is the long slot.....sucks IMO

[Westwindmike]

Long slot that blends into the slide. The site comes off with a cross pin removed.

[timthetoolman]

Looks like a few folks make one. I'm just concerned colt may have cross drilled the slide off a bit. Guess ill bust out the calipers and see what I can figure out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Westwindmike]

[timthetoolman]

Yep that's it. Midway doesn't have them but amazon does. If I am going thru the trouble and expense I wonder if I should go to something other than a target style rear blade? Not even sure what's out there. Seems like all my pistols have a different sight picture. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Westwindmike]

Well, seeing how the GC was supposed to be a target pistol, I suspect the options will be limited.

[timthetoolman]

That's what I figured. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[LngRngShtr]

http://www.wichitaarms.com/Products/sights.asp

 

Some milling required but a "Tank" of a sight, positive click adjustables, and I will admit droppable though I wouldn't make a regular practice of it

 

Here ya go, looks like a BOMAR and is long enough to cover the old colt groove in my series '70  gunsmith melted it in and IIRC came forward just a smidge to do it has been fine since 1988 or so.  the .38Super (blue mag base pad) was crooked, Dad was OK with it but it bothered me so I C-More'd it  the 10mm (center) was a std. dovetail so a BoMar sits there.

 

 What purpose will the Gold Cup serve ? Bullseye shooters prefer black on black I have found it to be the most versatile for me as my attention isn't drawn away by a bright line or dot or triangle etc.

 

 One shooter I knew went through a period of changing sights used nail polish/model paint to try out the different options and colors before dropping coin on the real deal 

 

I prefer my iron sights all black except for my carry which is a std. Glock 23 but looking at TruGlo TFOs in the near future   3-dot is usually a carry option

Edited January 31, 2014 by LngRngShtr

[timthetoolman]

I've considered having a smith mill in the slide for a dovetail like the Bomar, but I keep thinking it will ultimately hurt the value of my Colt.  Not like I plan to sell it but if I had to I'm not sure it wold help the value any.  I'll slide it apart in a bit and see if I can figure out what's causing it.  When I bought it Colt said it would be a 6 month turn around and I like shooting it too much to part with it for that long.  So I took it to a local smith and he fiddled around with the roll pin but couldnt straighten the sight.  His eyes arent the best anymore so who knows...could be a crappy sight, could be a bent pin, could be a poorly drilled slide....wish me luck.

 

Heres a pic

 

 

 

[Westwindmike]

Maybe the sight is straight and the slide is crooked.

[Westwindmike]

I think I'd sell the GC and buy something you like. If you start milling and dovetailing, you will hurt the value. GC's are bringing a premium right now.

[timthetoolman]

Na I can rotate the sight with my fingers. It's like it has tension applied or twist in the wrong direction. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[gregintenn]

I have a 70 series Gold Cup. It's pretty and all, and it's probably just me, but I can throw it more accurately than I can shoot it. As far as I know the sights are straight, however.

[timthetoolman]

You should sell it to me ;) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[LngRngShtr]

 the gap below the sight, maybe carefully bent the tang of the Eliason to bring the blade level ?

 

mine was a "parts gun" before I got it the GC top end was on the SS frame in the pic the frame pin holes are ovaled from the large round count so maybe it will become a .22 trainer or a carbine conversion some day.

 

Gold Cups aren't what they once were the Series 70 collet bushing doesn't lend itself to the premo accuracy of a fitted bushing and the series 80 lock doesn't do the trigger pull any favors either  they still shoot better than a "regular" 1911 but nothing like the older pre-70s GCs they were hand fitted

 

Mine cracked the bushing and jammed in the middle of a PPC match shooting light loads so a KART bushing was fitted and it still out shoots me even with 180 PF USPSA loads

 

Still wondering what your intended use is for the GC  the milling for a sight or a fitted bushing done well may not affect the value as much since this isn't an unfired specimen 

 

Maybe timcalhoun can help  he is on here somewhere

 

John