Where to go?

[Titansfan]

Been a fan of "Walking Dead" last couple of seasons, there was discussion from time to time of where to go or what to do, was obvious that us who think of survival will not relate good to a TV show.

 

Anyways, I was on a geocaching adventure that took me to Virgin Falls, Rock Island State Park and near Fall Creek Falls.  At a virtual cache called (Smoke Signals), location: N 35° 40.172 W 085° 18.373

 

Location is an closed fire tower which is located on top of a large hill, terrain is steep on all sides expect the road leading up to the fire tower, that being the weak point.

 

I didn't go up the tower this time since I was on of the few in the group that had already completed this virtual.  I visited the location in 2006. 

 

House is there, along with out buildings and a propane tank.

 

Pictured our our hike to the tower.  Large and very tall tower.

 

Advantages:

 

Rural area, should be less indigent walkers

Wooded and complex terrain, walkers don't trasverse very well

Flat area on the hill top, be able to grow some crops, possible small number of livestock

Tall tower for overwatch of the entire hilltop and surrounding area.

Propane tank, fuel for heat and cooking.

 

Concerns:

Rural area, be longer distances to obtain supplies

House one story and is wood, need to be more secure.

Fire tower is very tall, use of arrows, crossbows would be ineffective at that distance.

Water source not on the hilltop.

If overrun, by walkers or rogue survivors, retreat would be difficult.

 

Would be difficult to, but not impossible to defend against rogue survivors.

 

 

To fortify, use barbed wire at base of hill and areas up the hill to trap or delay walkers.

Stronger fence at hilltop ridge, with one exit/entrance

Reinforce the house.

 

 

 

 

[2.ooohhh]

That residence was occupied by FCF park rangers at least during the spring/summer/fall months when FCF is busy last I was up that way. A friend was dating an interpretive ranger that was living there. Not saying bugging out there is a terrible idea, but I do know one time we showed up in a different car well after dark and were greeted by a gun barrel until her roommate(also a park ranger) recognized who it was.

 

The fire tower does have a great view though.   :up:

[jtmaze]

Dead end gravel rd with as few houses as possible. Or a vacant prison if you can find one. JTM We the People of the United States, in order to form a more Perfect Union......

[Oh Shoot]

....Advantages:

 

Rural area, should be less indigent walkers

 

You'd prefer to be eaten by rich walkers? What a snob! ;)

 

- OS

[mikadosoft]

Think powered paraglider to get out of there if overrun. I have to think there would be good wind (updraft) at the top of a steep hill.

John Edited January 26, 2014 by mikadosoft

[Guest theconstitutionrocks]

if it can be seen it can be hit, if it can be hit, it can be killed. 

[Guest theconstitutionrocks]

I think the key question is "where to go....from what"? Who are you hiding from? Is this a hunker down and hde or are you going to be actively conducting some kind of operation? If the goal is just plain hiding, then the likely best choice is to be in a remote area, WELL off the beaten path, dug in with overhead cover-concealment, and a significant break in your scent/thermal trail as well as how you got there (leaving your truck parked a mile away is pointless, you either need to walk or at best case use a bicycle).

 

If you are talking about conducting some sort of "operation" then the whole host of questions about, "why, against whom, where, payoff, motive, method, desired outcome, target proximity, post operation evasion and relocation" all come into play, not to mention the issue of "one man does not an army make" You would have to have co-actors which increases your vulnerability to detection as well as logistical challenges.

[OKelly]

where to go, Just a few  miles from my house,  a nice two story cabin on the finger of a ridge, with its own natural gas well and solar panels.  its even more isolated than my place LOL.

[Dustbuster]

The Closest Masonic temple ....


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[Titansfan]

You'd prefer to be eaten by rich walkers? What a snob! ;)

 

- OS

 

Better word would be  Indigenous. 

[Dane]

As I saw somewhere: Go to the nearest graveyard for the greatest game of wack-a-mole EVER Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

[whitewolf001]

Seems to me like any tall structure would be a deathtrap as a means of escape. If swarmed with say a horde, there's real no way to get away short of fighting your way out or disabling someone in the MAG to leave them for fodder, either way is a VERY bad idea. Only go higher if you have a plan for a way out, otherwise you're just signing your own death warrant. However as a form of recon it's an excellent idea and seems though the area as a whole in general is not a bad idea. You would also wanna be as far away from any population centers as possible. Though you post someone up in that tower with a suppressed marksman rifle and some form of alert system to those below(radio, bell, what have you) and you'd have a pretty good setup imho.

Edited January 27, 2014 by whitewolf001

[glowdotGlock]

I think about stuff like this often. Why doesn't anyone ever take to the water? And I am refering to a Walking Dead scenario with "walkers" more than anything. I don't think the dead can tread water very well. I would consider a good size boat. Wouldn't have to be just 100 feet or more from shore.

[whitewolf001]

I think about stuff like this often. Why doesn't anyone ever take to the water? And I am refering to a Walking Dead scenario with "walkers" more than anything. I don't think the dead can tread water very well. I would consider a good size boat. Wouldn't have to be just 100 feet or more from shore.

While a good option, it makes you a BIG target for looters unless you keep moving which then brings up the problem of refueling.

[glowdotGlock]

I agree but I think it would be beneficial in a zombie situation. Maybe even camp on a barge in the river. I would armor up of course for the human intruders.

[OKelly]

Ive thought about using boats,  a house boat, an apartment barge, or river boat.

[OKelly]

Seems to me like any tall structure would be a deathtrap as a means of escape. If swarmed with say a horde, there's real no way to get away short of fighting your way out or disabling someone in the MAG to leave them for fodder, either way is a VERY bad idea. Only go higher if you have a plan for a way out, otherwise you're just signing your own death warrant. However as a form of recon it's an excellent idea and seems though the area as a whole in general is not a bad idea. You would also wanna be as far away from any population centers as possible. Though you post someone up in that tower with a suppressed marksman rifle and some form of alert system to those below(radio, bell, what have you) and you'd have a pretty good setup imho.

install a zip line what will take you to a hidden fully loaded vehicle.

 

 

 

You'd prefer to be eaten by rich walkers? What a snob! ;)

 

- OS

I dont have to worry about the rich walkers, they wont eat me, Ive been told I have bad taste LOL

Edited January 28, 2014 by OKelly

[Oh Shoot]

Better word would be  Indigenous. 

 

Couldn't resist ;)

[Titansfan]

Thought about the water, barge, houseboat, island off Paris Landing, etc.  When 99% of so of the population are "Walkers", infrastructure is no more.  Dams that regulate the rivers will not longer work.  Could only tell how flooding would become.

 

"I think the key question is "where to go....from what"? Who are you hiding from? Is this a hunker down and hde or are you going to be actively conducting some kind of operation? If the goal is just plain hiding, then the likely best choice is to be in a remote area, WELL off the beaten path, dug in with overhead cover-concealment, and a significant break in your scent/thermal trail as well as how you got there (leaving your truck parked a mile away is pointless, you either need to walk or at best case use a bicycle).

 

If you are talking about conducting some sort of "operation" then the whole host of questions about, "why, against whom, where, payoff, motive, method, desired outcome, target proximity, post operation evasion and relocation" all come into play, not to mention the issue of "one man does not an army make" You would have to have co-actors which increases your vulnerability to detection as well as logistical challenges."

 

From what, a walker take over...virus going global.  Remote area to be away from Walkers.  But since I reside in Dresden, that would mean for me a trip onto I-40, passing by or through high pop areas such as Nashville if stay on 40, Mufreesboro, Frankin on 840.  I saw better places during my hike the previous day at Virgin Falls, far more remote, water access.  But too remote for other resources.

 

We hiked to the fire tower since the access road was closed.  When I completed the virtual in 2006, I drive right to the base of the tower.  I didn't make the trip to the top of the fire tower this time, the 10 mile hike the previous day took a major toll on my knees.  In the event of a walker take over, a bar across a gravel road will NOT deter me from entry.

 

The hilltop is flat, crops could grow and maybe some livestock. 

[tnguy]

Seems to me like any tall structure would be a deathtrap as a means of escape. If swarmed with say a horde, there's real no way to get away short of fighting your way out or disabling someone in the MAG to leave them for fodder, either way is a VERY bad idea. Only go higher if you have a plan for a way out, otherwise you're just signing your own death warrant. However as a form of recon it's an excellent idea and seems though the area as a whole in general is not a bad idea. You would also wanna be as far away from any population centers as possible. Though you post someone up in that tower with a suppressed marksman rifle and some form of alert system to those below(radio, bell, what have you) and you'd have a pretty good setup imho.

 

But fire towers tend to imply wooded areas and wooded areas imply cover for zombies and bad-guys.

 

It would probably be trivial to topple one of those towers with a truck and a length of chain also.

[glowdotGlock]

A little off topic but I have always wondered about how we could identify ourselves to other TGO members in a SHTF situation. There's lots of us. I mean I guess you could just ask anyone you came across but a secret way to identify ourselves would help. Maybe the emblem on a bag or something...

[tnguy]

Custom-issue CCW badge? ;)

[tnguy]

Edited January 28, 2014 by tnguy

[glowdotGlock]

[quote name="tnguy" post="1102557" timestamp="1390941604"][/quote] Hahahah! Now that actually made me ell-oh-ell :lol:

[mikadosoft]

I like the idea of a boat. But I would use it to get to an island in Percy Priest Lake. On an island, you could have great cover (build it). You will have great fields of fire (no cover on the water as people/zombies approach). Shooting at the waterline will slow approaching boats even more. Access to food (fish) and water. Lastly quick avenues of escape.

John