For those who believe otherwise...

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Good article about what a Republican senate means, whether or not you subscribe to it. I think it

is accurate, unless you wish to give Clinton credit, and I can think of no reason for that.

 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/01/what_republican_senate_control_means_for_america.html

 

At least I remember it being that way.

[Guest TresOsos]

Look I'd like to have a "Conservative" Republicain Senate.

If it means voting for Lamar again......sorry, ain't going to happen.

At some point it time you have to try and make them understand that lesser of 2 evils will not work anymore.

If that is the choice I might as well vote for Chutulu.

Edited January 20, 2014 by TresOsos

[TrickyNicky]

Look I'd like to have a "Conservative" Republicain Senate.
If it means voting for Lamar again......sorry, ain't going to happen.
At some point it time you have to try and make them understand that lesser of 2 evils will not work anymore.
If that is the choice I might as well vote for Chutulu.

But remember, "THIS time it's important. NEXT time you can vote your concience, THIS time there's too much on the line." :rolleyes:

EVERY election matters and they all have consequences. The "lesser of two evils" plays right into the hands of the sh;tbag politicians who couldn't really care about politics one way or the next. Like many others, my mission for the next cycle is to send as many of their butts packing for home as possible, republican, democrat, whatever. If they've already "served" they're going home.



The cycle of crap has to stop somewhere.

[Oh Shoot]

Well, hope everyone who doesn't believe in the "lesser of two evils" doesn't mind if the Dems have majority in both chambers, plus the presidency.

 

Oh, yeah, and SCOTUS being waayyy left for the next 25 years minimum. If you don't think that's makes any "difference", there's no argument that will sway you, I reckon.

 

- OS

Edited January 20, 2014 by Oh Shoot

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Look I'd like to have a "Conservative" Republicain Senate.

If it means voting for Lamar again......sorry, ain't going to happen.

At some point it time you have to try and make them understand that lesser of 2 evils will not work anymore.

If that is the choice I might as well vote for Chutulu.

Did you read the article? Do you really think the Dems will hold the senate forever? And you do have a choice against Lamar

in the primary. That means if you channel that anger and get people to the polls Lamar can go down. Or is that one too many "ifs"?

I guess the House is really in Democrat control, also. There are good and bad Republicans in the House. Just tends to happen.

You can't have it all without some differences in personality and politics. We are all created equal, but that doesn't make it easy

to get everyone in politics to be ideal.

Edited January 20, 2014 by 6.8 AR

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I posted this article for historical posterity. Knowing that history does repeat itself. It's up to us to get it right.

[Guest TresOsos]

Same ole stuff that gets regurgitated every election cycle.

Just this one more time. it counts this time.

Yada yada yada...same ole *hit different election.

If we do not take a stand at some point we never will.

The Republicrats keep saying they fight the next time.

Give us the Senate we will fight and if they win it, they will say we need the Presidencey, then we will fight.

Sorry I don't by that crap any longer.

If Lamar looses the primary and I will vote for his challenger, I will vote for the new Republican/crat nominee.

I will not vote for Lame Ass Lamar.

 

I did not vote for Lame Ass Lamar the last time he ran, I will not vote for him this time.

Edited January 21, 2014 by TresOsos

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Try voting against him in the primary, then. Maybe you won't have to make a "lesser of two evils" decision.

[bersaguy]

Well, I saw better times in our country when the Republicans held the Senate and that is fact. I don't like Lamar either but if voting for him will help win the Senate I will vote for him. I know a lot of people think the House is not doing anything but in all reality they have been working their butts off trying to just keep our country together. They have sent over 1000 bills to the floor of the Senate that would have helped our country rebuild and Dirty Harry and Botox Pelosi has not allowed them to go to the floor for a vote. They are scared to death a few democrats might vote for a few of them and that would never work in an Obama administration. A lot of the good things that came out of the Clinton White house (and I know this will make some folks mad) came because Newt Gingrich knew how to work the Senate and House so they would work together. Say what you want about Gingrich but the man is smart when it comes to politics. I know I will get beat up on for saying that but if you look at his political record and not his personal life you could see it. He made Bill Clinton look real good. Good enough he got elected for a second term even with the Monica scandal. Oh yea Gingrich also did use the old Reaganomics program that was laid out for the older Bush to use but never did and he lost the election for his read my lips slogan rather than putting the Reaganomics program into effect. Gingrich knew the plan was a good one and he laid it out for ole Willie and wild Bill jumped on it. Reaganomics was put together by a Republican Senate and House. That is what we need again............jmho

[Guest TresOsos]

Try voting against him in the primary, then. Maybe you won't have to make a "lesser of two evils" decision.

I will vote in primary for his  Republicain/Republicrat ,opponent/ challenger, even if its Chutulu himself.

But if LA Lamar wins, nope games over for me.

 

Wake up the Republicrats promise they are going to oppose this or do that and they never deliver.

Frankly its come down to do you want Democain Socialism or Republicrat Socialism.

[Oh Shoot]

....

Frankly its come down to do you want Democain Socialism or Republicrat Socialism.

 

Can probably at least keep your guns with the latter.

 

- OS

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I will vote in primary for his Republicain/Republicrat ,opponent/ challenger, even if its Chutulu himself.
But if LA Lamar wins, nope games over for me.

Wake up the Republicrats promise they are going to oppose this or do that and they never deliver.
Frankly its come down to do you want Democain Socialism or Republicrat Socialism.

Must be no solution then. If everyone's bad, what's the point?
The more people who subscribe to this train of excuse for thought,
the more the enemy wins. It isn't going to go away until you engage.
Good luck, because luck is what you will be basing your future on.
Is that what you want? A lottery ticket?

[Guest TresOsos]

No the more we hold onto the lesser of two evils philosopy the enemy advances.

[Chucktshoes]

When the boot is on my neck, It makes no difference whether it is a left or a right boot.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I don't feel one on my neck, yet. I don't want to. It's bad enough already, with a senate full of Democrats. That stupid pain

we call Obamacare is what turned the House back around. Turning the senate around would slow that tyrant around even

more, while putting a boot on Lamar's neck and electing his opponent in the primary.

[Hershmeister]

[Guest TresOsos]

I don't feel one on my neck, yet. I don't want to. It's bad enough already, with a senate full of Democrats. That stupid pain

we call Obamacare is what turned the House back around. Turning the senate around would slow that tyrant around even

more, while putting a boot on Lamar's neck and electing his opponent in the primary.

Your still holding on to the Republicain Party Paradigm.

The Republicain Party is not our friend and not going to save us from the Democians, they both love big Government with a capital G.

We need to vote for individuals and find a new way.......the Republicrats are going the way of the Whigs.

 

I'm a Limitarian (Conservative for Limited and Restrained Government).

[Guest 6.8 AR]

No, and I never have held onto it. You have to fix what you can, rather than hiding your head in the sand. Huge difference.

There are plenty of Republicans I would never vote for.

[Guest TresOsos]

I don't think I can be accused of walking around with my head in the sand.

 

Oh and to answer another poster and as a strong 2nd Admendment Supporter.

My guns aren't everything and I'm not a one issue voter.

I have 5 grandchildren and am very concerned what kind of country and world they will have to live in.

Believe me I'd like for them to continue have what few freedoms we have left and I'd like for them to have the kind

of freedoms and opportunity we use to have in this country.

[LagerHead]

Well, hope everyone who doesn't believe in the "lesser of two evils" doesn't mind if the Dems have majority in both chambers, plus the presidency.

 

Oh, yeah, and SCOTUS being waayyy left for the next 25 years minimum. If you don't think that's makes any "difference", there's no argument that will sway you, I reckon.

 

- OS

 

Both parties preach the same thing to keep their voters from voting other than D or R. And in both parties, voters say the same thing you are saying because they are led to believe that those who vote outside the two party system will all come from their party, thereby giving the other party the Congress and the White House.

 

But here's the rub: Those that are like me, would be perfectly happy if NEITHER of these two parties controlled anything. They have both been complicit in putting this country in the position in which we now find it, so pardon me if I don't shed any tears if <insert bought-and-paid-for career politician's name here> doesn't win in the next election.  

[bersaguy]

The way I see it, as long as we allow the Democrats to hold the Senate and block every bill the Republican House sends them the more down hill our country will go. If things do not change in the Senate in the elections this year that will give the Obamination the time he needs to finish destroying our great nation. I do not plan on just sitting back and putting my head in the sand and awaiting the outcome with out doing my part to try and change it for the better................jmho

[Oh Shoot]

Both parties preach the same thing to keep their voters from voting other than D or R. And in both parties, voters say the same thing you are saying because they are led to believe that those who vote outside the two party system will all come from their party, thereby giving the other party the Congress and the White House.

 

But here's the rub: Those that are like me, would be perfectly happy if NEITHER of these two parties controlled anything. They have both been complicit in putting this country in the position in which we now find it, so pardon me if I don't shed any tears if <insert bought-and-paid-for career politician's name here> doesn't win in the next election.  

 

Our difference: you think things in DC could improve while I posit they can only get worse. Much worse,  if our mutually despised "RepubliCratRinos" lose both chambers.

 

- OS

[LagerHead]

Our difference: you think things in DC could improve while I posit they can only get worse. Much worse,  if our mutually despised "RepubliCratRinos" lose both chambers.

 

- OS

 

You misunderstand me. I want BOTH parties gone. Not just one. 

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Well, find a replacement that can get elected. Talk
is cheap. No one around here wants a bunch of
RINOs screwing things up, but lumping a decent
Republican with a RINO and saying they are all

worthless is moving lips without saying anything
of intelligence. Lazy intellectual intercourse. That's

partly what got us in the present shape we're in.
Offer a different approach and still say they're all
alike is what people say about the Tea Party, too.

Just say it's over and let the games begin.

Edited January 22, 2014 by 6.8 AR

[BigK]

The problem with crappy choices at the poll is that it's a tough choice and we don't like tough choices. I suggest that it takes a bigger man to hold his nose and vote for the lesser of 2 evils than it does to stay home. Sometimes when you jump into a fight you have to choose between getting cut and getting shot. 

 

The GOP isn't going to back more conservative candidates in the primaries because a bunch of people stayed home in the last general election. They are already 100% convinced they need to go after the middle instead of the extremes. If the middle finds Alexander palatable, but thinks Carr is too conservative, WE STILL LOSE THE ELECTION. Alexander isn't a RINO anymore, he's a mainstream Republican. The party has changed that much.

 

The only way to avoid casting a vote for a Republican you don't like is to make sure they don't win the primary. The country didn't prove me wrong in 2012, Romney won the primary. The more conservative candidates were too principled to step aside and leave ONE conservative to duke it out with Romney, so he ran away with it. Then we tried to show the GOP by staying home and now we have 4 more years of hell. I guess we showed them, huh?

Edited January 21, 2014 by BigK