Kitchen Sink / Plumbing Question - *Additional Question*

[tnguy]

Pfft, you can avoid all that work.

 

Just raise your counters the appropriate distance.

[Guest Lowbuster]

Pfft, you can avoid all that work.

Just raise your counters the appropriate distance.

That was my point. Lowes will try to sell this idea for this if they read this. I was just trying to warn people so they don't get ripped off, or do something the hard or most expensive way.
Reading your posts tells me you have a good sense of humor.

[RED333]

TDR, did ya get you chore done?

[TripleDigitRide]

TDR, did ya get you chore done?

Not yet. We are still debating on the sink we are going to buy. I wanted to know what I was getting into by going with a sink other than the exact style and size of our current sink. I'll be installing new counter tops in 2-3 weeks, so I will install the sink at that time.

[RED333]

I see, more work than just a sink.

[94user]

Not kidding at all.  I said "the plumbers", not the dropouts working their first job.  Lowe's has both.

I beg to differ. At least in the Memphis area.The plumbing company I work for used to do installations for Lowes here until the cut back on the pay. They keep too big a chunk of what the customer pays for installations. most of thier employees don't know squat.

[TripleDigitRide]

I see, more work than just a sink.

Oh yes! Counter tops, sink, 2 tile backsplashes in the kitchen, tile floors in both bathrooms. Once all that is done, I'm sure something else will "need" to be done. 

[94user]

Then a new faucet, disposer , and dishwasher is required. ;)

Edited January 21, 2014 by 94user

[TripleDigitRide]

Then a new faucet, disposer , and dishwasher is required. ;)

Yes! The faucet is a whole other debate.

[RED333]

Yes! The faucet is a whole other debate.

DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON THIS!

 

My only advice is to put on the sink before you put the sink into the counter top.

[TripleDigitRide]

 

My only advice is to put on the sink before you put the sink into the counter top.

You mean just set the sink into the sink hole cutout and hook it up before actually fastening it to the counter top?

[RED333]

You mean just set the sink into the sink hole cutout and hook it up before actually fastening it to the counter top?

No, mount the faucet to the sink, put the water lines on before you put the sink into the counter top.

A hole lot easier to get things tight when you have the room to turn wrenches.

[TripleDigitRide]

[quote name="RED333" post="1098511" timestamp="1390272497"]No, mount the faucet to the sink, put the water lines on before you put the sink into the counter top. A hole lot easier to get things tight when you have the room to turn wrenches.[/quote] OK. I know what you mean.

[peejman]

Oh yes! Counter tops, sink, 2 tile backsplashes in the kitchen, tile floors in both bathrooms. Once all that is done, I'm sure something else will "need" to be done. 

 

 

Ah, the joys of home ownership.  It's the American dream, just keep telling yourself that.  :)

 

 

No, mount the faucet to the sink, put the water lines on before you put the sink into the counter top.

A hole lot easier to get things tight when you have the room to turn wrenches.

 

 

This man is a genius.  And I feel really stupid for not thinking of that.  Twice.    :doh:

[tnguy]

I beg to differ. At least in the Memphis area.The plumbing company I work for used to do installations for Lowes here until the cut back on the pay. They keep too big a chunk of what the customer pays for installations. most of thier employees don't know squat.

 

After an unfortunate tenant in our Florida place, we repainted the walls and had the carpet replaced by Lowes. We repainted the walls first, of course. When the carpet guys had finished, we'd gone in and there were scratches all through our wet paint apparently where they'd been careless with their carpet stretching tools. Was not happy. Meant to make a complaint but other things became important.

[tnguy]

Yes! The faucet is a whole other debate.

 

Upgraded ours to one with lever control and a pull-out head (probably an official name for it). Have liked it immensely. You should always be able to use the one remaining clean patch of skin to activate water.

 

If you just mean the style, you're on your own. I presented mine as a fait accompli so no discussion there :)

Edited January 21, 2014 by tnguy

[RED333]

Ah, the joys of home ownership.  It's the American dream, just keep telling yourself that.  :)

 

 

 

 

This man is a genius.  And I feel really stupid for not thinking of that.  Twice.    :doh:

Experience is something ya get just after ya need it, do not ask how I know.

[Guest Lowbuster]

No, mount the faucet to the sink, put the water lines on before you put the sink into the counter top.
A hole lot easier to get things tight when you have the room to turn wrenches.

This is good advice

[Guest Lowbuster]

I beg to differ. At least in the Memphis area.The plumbing company I work for used to do installations for Lowes here until the cut back on the pay. They keep too big a chunk of what the customer pays for installations. most of thier employees don't know squat.

They wanted me to do installs after I quit.
They never asked me to go help people on the floor and offer help to customers. I guess each region is different.

[TripleDigitRide]

So, we finally picked out a new Kohler sink. Because the Kohler strainers/drains and disposal flange were so expensive, and they didn't have matching finishes, I decided to try a different brand. Before actually installing the strainer and disposal flange, I set them in place to see how they'd look.

 

As you know, the ring (whatever it's called) of the strainer and flange set down into a slightly recessed lip around the sink hole. While the disposal flange fills up the recessed area nicely, there is a noticeable and somewhat unsightly gap around the strainer/drain side.

 

For whatever reason, the diameter of the strainer/drain in 4 3/8", and the disposal flange is 4 1/2". Our current sink doesn't appear to have this issue, so I'm wondering how common this may be. I plan on going back to Lowe's in the morning to check the diameter of the Kohler strainer. 

Edited February 9, 2014 by TripleDigitRide

[gregintenn]

I watch the Red Green show for all my plumbing and general home improvement tips.

[tnhawk]

Then a new faucet, disposer , and dishwasher is required. ;)

Don't forget, these items usually require a new stove and refrigerator.

 

Been there, done that.  Got a dirty tshirt!

Edited February 9, 2014 by tnhawk

[peejman]

Our sink is a kohler cast iron and I didn't buy the kohler flanges either. Both the disposal and strainer fit basically flush. Both measure about 4-7/16.

[TripleDigitRide]

After a call to Home Depot and receiving information I wasn't convinced was correct, I made the trek to Hendersonville and measured myself. Kohler strainers and disposal flanges both measure 4 1/2. That's what I was looking for. They are proud of their stuff. At an additional cost of $70 more than the aftermarket brand, that purchase stung a little. But with al the money being spent in the kitchen, $70 is hardly going to make a difference. The countertops and sink should be installed today.

Edited February 9, 2014 by TripleDigitRide

[TripleDigitRide]

Don't forget, these items usually require a new stove and refrigerator.

 

Been there, done that.  Got a dirty tshirt!

God, help me! The whole "stainless" hint has been dropped more than once. Unless the appliances quit working, stainless appliances will have to wait until next year.